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#57737 - 03/24/08 06:43 AM Panic in the pages
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Panic in the pages

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The comic book panic of the 1950s was neither the first nor the last occasion when anxieties about children's exposure to American pop culture got out of hand. Anthony Comstock fulminated against dime-novels in the nineteenth century and the government continues to battle federal court judges over the enforcement of the Child Online Protection Act in this one. According to David Hajdu, author of "The Ten-Cent Plague: The Great Comic-Book Scare and How It Changed America," the attack on comic books -- culminating in a sensational televised congressional committee hearing in 1954 -- is particularly important because it marks the birth of the rebellious youth culture of the 1960s. It was over the issue of comics, he argues, that the generation gap first emerged.



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Then there was the breathtakingly mercenary publisher Victor Fox, whose writers had to beg to get paid and usually got bad checks, a man who "never meant a word he said," according to one source. Stanley P. Morse put out comic books with stories titled simply "Hate" or "Violence" and once remarked, "I don't know what the hell I published. I never knew. I never read the things. I never cared."



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Others among his colleagues were solid artisans who found fulfillment in comic books after being rejected by more respectable industries because of their race, ethnicity, religion or gender -- like Janice Valleau, who got a kick out of drawing Toni Gayle, a fashion model who solved crimes in her spare time.


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At the center of the scandal, however, was William M. Gaines, a high school science teacher who was obliged to take up the reins at EC Comics when his father died in a boating accident in 1947.


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Gaines' nemesis was the psychiatrist Frederic Wertham, whose inflammatory 1954 book, "The Seduction of the Innocent: The Influence Of Comic Books On Today's Youth" made him the most prominent among the multiplying ranks of anti-comics activists in the early 1950s. Both men testified before the Senate Subcommittee on Juvenile Delinquency in April, 1954.



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Just think how differently the sorry tale of the great comic book scare would have turned out if everyone involved had been a little more grown-up.



"This" "says" to me that "tv and video games" AIN'T [necessarily]WHAT "ails" "our children".
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#57747 - 03/24/08 08:25 AM Re: Panic in the pages [Re: mama]
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Well, they can be. If parents abdicate and leave their children to learn about morality from TV and video games. Or comics. Or Fox "News".
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#57862 - 03/25/08 02:12 AM Re: Panic in the pages [Re: loganrbt]
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What "bothers" me is that "many" parents have "abdicate[d]" SOME OF "their" responsibilty to the "public schools" and "the Church" THINKING that "these entities" are MOST ASSUREDLY "TRUSTWORTHY" while "condemning" [nearly] ALL "other sources" of "information" and the "stimulation" of "natural curiousity".

It "seems to me" that "we" have "tucked our children in" using "wet blankets". \:\(
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#57864 - 03/25/08 03:13 AM Re: Panic in the pages [Re: mama]
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mama, I only heard about the 1950s panic regarding comic books only this past weekend. I never knew such a panic existed. I just assumed that comic books have always benign as they are today.
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#57902 - 03/25/08 01:48 PM Re: Panic in the pages [Re: mama]
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 Originally Posted By: mama
What "bothers" me is that "many" parents have "abdicate[d]" SOME OF "their" responsibilty to the "public schools" and "the Church" THINKING that "these entities" are MOST ASSUREDLY "TRUSTWORTHY" while "condemning" [nearly] ALL "other sources" of "information" and the "stimulation" of "natural curiousity".

It "seems to me" that "we" have "tucked our children in" using "wet blankets". \:\(



Mama...glad you brought up the school issue. You're absolutely correcto-mundo. Many parents do believe that it's the school's responsibility to instill morals. But the odd thing is, when a child goes home and begins to tell his or her parents about some moral issue, a taint of the pulpit opinion, or maybe a political discussion at school and should those opinions or discussions disagree with the parents' beliefs...the parents will storm to the school to chew out the teachers and admins.

As far as church...now that's a loaded issue. Although your comment to me was certainly within the boundaries of being correct, maybe a lesson (Obama Incident) has been laid out to many Americans about churches (more so pastors, revs., priest, etc) do say things that might not be in line with a parent.
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#58035 - 03/26/08 03:52 AM Re: Panic in the pages [Re: AustinRanter]
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"Bottom Line"[once again?]-

Do "we" AS A NATION "consider" "brain-washing" "OUR" Children "A BETTER WAY"[?] to "raise them"?

I AM "afraid" that "we" "do".

Being "able" to "read" "the bills" and "adding up" one's "take" IS "a plus",I guess.

[Why do "The Little People" NEED Science? Music? Art? Social Studies? Civics?]
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#58111 - 03/26/08 05:22 PM Re: Panic in the pages [Re: pdx rick]
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One of the more spectacular claims made by that shrink involved the Batman stories. He claimed that the obviously close relationship between Bruce Wayne and his ward, Dick Grayson, essentially approved of and encouraged homosexual relationships.

Twenty-five years ago, the "modern" comic book series such as Elfquest and X-Men, led religious speakers to indulge in hand-wringing about the approval of magic and supernatural powers.
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#58120 - 03/26/08 06:18 PM Re: Panic in the pages [Re: Ron G.]
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Halloween has been under attack by the religious leaders since its inception. Oh, and let's not forget the dooming of rock-n-roll. You'd have thought that Chuck Berry was the son of satan by the comments made by many religious figures in the 50s .

All I can say is, "Hail, hail rock-n-roll."
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