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#302390 - 07/20/17 11:00 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: logtroll]
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Originally Posted By: logtroll
Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Trump IS a Russian agent.

That he is, as well as many of his closest cohorts:

Foreign agent definition

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Under the 2012 Russian foreign agent law, nongovernmental organizations have to designate themselves "foreign agents" in all external communication if they engage in "political activity" and receive any foreign funding.

Perhaps another reason Trump won't release his tax records...

I think that is the MAIN reason Trump won't release his tax records.

If Mueller can get his hands on those.... tonbricks
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#302391 - 07/21/17 02:18 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: matthew]
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If Mueller can get his hands on those


I'm sure he has subpoena power and the ability to ask a federal judge for a search warrant. That's all it takes.

Tax returns are not classified or anything. You show up at an IRA office with a search warrant signed by a judge and they give you what it specifies.

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#302402 - 07/22/17 10:15 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pondering_it_all]
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First... apologies for not going thru the thread, as I'm sure this has been discussed... But...
It's a subject that has suddenly brought all of the Russia/US politics into focus for me.

The Magnitsky Act

A close reading makes a lot of names and activities more meaningful. Why the media continues to use "adoption" as a theme for discussion is beyond me. Even Rachel hasn't dug into this to do it justice.

And it's not as simple as that. Magnitsky involved the repeal of the
Jackson-Vanik amendment... which had restricted man, many US moneyed-elite interests.

Small wonder that the breadth of the involvement of banks and great corporations hasn't risen to the surface. Money laundering and political influence extends so deeply into the business world and the power brokers that it's possible a full spilling of the details would devastate the world markets.

Try this: From Slate

My darkside conspiracy theory. crazy




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#302404 - 07/22/17 10:48 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Good find, Cousin It !

But I am sure that at least as much money has been stolen and laundered by the American oligarchs as has been stolen by Putin and his oligarchs and hangers-on.
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#302410 - Yesterday at 01:26 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Sessions may just be toast: WaPo published a story about his MANY meetings with Russians, both before and after the election. Intelligence agencies intercepted communications from the Russians back to Moscow after the meetings and they are VERY incriminating. Specifically, what Trump could do re Russian sanctions if elected. Not at all what Sessions testified to various times under oath.

He recused himself because he knows he is right up to his neck in it. He's trying to save his ass from going to prison, but has already committed perjury several times. I think he hoped they might just forget about him when Trump goes down, if he gave the appearance of being uninvolved. Too late now!

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