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#299585 - 03/15/17 04:19 AM The GOP masterminds sabotage behind Obamacare’s ‘death spiral’
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I am extremely tired of hearing the cynical whining from the unprecedented obstructive GOP congress subhumans about how Obamacare is a: disaster, imploding, collapsing of its own weight, dumpster fire, or some such fantasy da jour, and then righteously declaring, oh so patriotically, that for the good of the Nation, we have to repeal and replace it. They and any conscious non-morons in the country know damn well, that their only objectives in the past eight years was to obstruct, sabotage, and destroy anything associated with President Obama. I view them as traitorous as the worst of the Trump slime, as they have abandoned their oath of office, and purposely done severe damage to America. This is not limited to Obamacare, but notably also includes infrastructure investment, and corruption of the Judicial system process particularly the SCOTUS.

Folks around here have been discussing this for years, so why is there so little discussion of these very obvious lies in the current situation? Dana Milbank wrote a very damning analysis of it that came out today in the WAPO.
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The GOP masterminds behind Obamacare’s ‘death spiral’
I agree enthusiastically with his understated comment: This is some prodigious cyncism, even by Washington standards.

Ironically, the GOP are now seeing the strengths and rationale of the plan, that because of their constant maligning of its virtues, they are now politically unable to utilize the good parts. This leaves them little to work with as all good ideas have been tarred and feathered, including Romneycare from that has-been from Ma. So now they propose The American Ayn Rand death march. Even after having just failed so spectacularly and publicly revealed his true malignant plan for America, Paul Rayn shows no remorse as the Dickensonian monster that he is.

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The GOP masterminds behind Obamacare’s ‘death spiral’

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House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) says Obamacare is in a “death spiral,” and he should know: He’s the one who cut the power to Obamacare’s engines and pointed its nose downward.

President Trump says, “ObamaCare is imploding and will only get worse,” and he should know: He’s the one who placed the explosives under Obamacare’s foundation.

House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Greg Walden (R-Ore.), co-author of the GOP health-care bill, says of Obamacare: “We’ve arrived at the scene of a pretty big wreck.” And he, too, should know: He’s the one who dumped oil and tire spikes on the road.

This is some prodigious cyncism, even by Washington standards. In the past couple of months, the Trump administration and the new GOP Congress have done all they could to undermine Obamacare, and now that their efforts are beginning to succeed they’re claiming Obamacare is collapsing under its own weight.

The Affordable Care Act may or may not be in the death spiral Republicans have long craved, but it has definitely deteriorated since the Trump administration and the new GOP Congress assumed power. And no wonder: They sabotaged it.

They withdrew TV and online advertising encouraging people to sign up for coverage during the crucial period before the deadline. The White House issued an executive order and took other actions that strongly implied it would no longer enforce the “individual mandate” requiring people to sign up for coverage. And the constant promises of imminent repeal have spooked both insurers and individuals from participating.

Trump and congressional allies have, in short, created a self-fulfilling expectation of collapse. “What’s happened since the Trump administration took power is tremendous uncertainty about the future of the ACA,” said Larry Levitt of the Kaiser Family Foundation, which conducts health-care research but takes no position on the law. “For people who were on the fence about participating, the future uncertainty pushes them over. Many insurers, meanwhile, were willing to suffer short-term losses with the promise of future profits, but if the ACA’s future is uncertain there’s little reason to stick around.”

Now opponents of the law are using the wreckage they created to justify their own plan, which the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office projects would cause 24 million more people to go without coverage than would have under Obamacare. It would dramatically cut coverage for poor and middle-class Americans, increase costs sharply for older Americans and give hundreds of billions in tax breaks to the wealthy and corporate interests. There would actually be more people without health insurance under the GOP plan than there were before Obamacare.

Confronted with the task of selling this cruel plan to the public, the administration and its allies are doing what they’ve done before: attempting to deny reality. They’re seeking to discredit the CBO, perhaps hoping people won’t recall that Republicans picked the man who runs it: Keith Hall, a conservative former George W. Bush administration economist .

Worse, they’re perpetuating the canard that Obamacare was collapsing on its own, leaving them no choice but to repeal it. Walden argued that “if we don’t intercede now, fewer will have access to insurance — period.” Ryan said the “law is collapsing” and asked: “Are we going to stay with Obamacare and ride out the status quo?” And Trump floated a fallback plan: pass nothing, let Obamacare fail and blame Democrats for it.

But they aren’t “letting” Obamacare fail; they’re causing it. As I wrote six months ago, Obamacare extended coverage to more than 20 million, and it works well for most. Slightly more than 2 million people, mostly in rural areas, don’t have competitive plans to choose from and are seeing huge premium increases. Congress could have fixed that by giving insurers incentives to participate in those markets. Instead, Republican lawmakers refused to help insurers and then crowed when insurers complained.

Last month, Aetna chief executive Mark Bertolini said Obamacare was in a “death spiral” — and Trump gleefully tweeted about it. But the CBO, in its report Monday, said the exchanges would remain “stable in most areas” if the current law were left intact, because subsidies and the individual mandate would sustain demand.

The problem is that the administration has been working aggressively to suppress demand, by suggesting the mandate to buy insurance won’t be enforced and by ending government attempts to enroll people. A Brookings Institution analysis said a decline in enrollment for 2017 likely wasn’t caused by premium increases. Joshua Peck, former chief marketing officer for HealthCare.gov, estimated in a post on Medium that Trump deterred 480,000 people from signing up.

Obamacare isn’t failing; it’s being destroyed. And those committing the sabotage ought to own whatever happens next, whether they pass a replacement or not.



Edited by TatumAH (03/15/17 05:13 AM)
Edit Reason: Furrgot the Lynx
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#299588 - 03/15/17 06:42 AM Re: The GOP masterminds sabotage behind Obamacare’s ‘death spiral’ [Re: TatumAH]
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I suspect the truth will out: A heck of a lot of people who had coverage won't, and it is going to be in Republican laps. We just need to keep up the work by calling it the Republican "Go Home And Die" plan, because lots of people are going to do just that.

At least they won't be around to vote for Trump.

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#299608 - 03/15/17 10:47 PM Re: The GOP masterminds sabotage behind Obamacare’s ‘death spiral’ [Re: TatumAH]
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Actually, from what I'm reading it sounds like they won't get the votes to pass a bill. So we get to keep ACA with no mandate and no taxes for rich people. But we still have subsidies for the poor!

That's going to cause more debt, courtesy of Republicans. Why should I be surprised. If the rich were just a little bit richer, everything would be hunky-dory.

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#299621 - 03/16/17 04:35 AM Re: The GOP masterminds sabotage behind Obamacare’s ‘death spiral’ [Re: pondering_it_all]
TatumAH Offline
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Actually, from what I'm reading it sounds like they won't get the votes to pass a bill. So we get to keep ACA with no mandate and no taxes for rich people. But we still have subsidies for the poor!

That's going to cause more debt, courtesy of Republicans. Why should I be surprised. If the rich were just a little bit richer, everything would be hunky-dory.


It's even more diabolical than it seems at first glance. The talking heads are starting to agree with my position, that most likely thing to turnover the house and senate in 2018, is the RyanCare/Obamacare_repeal fiasco, as the blaming phase is entered. That crafty and diabolical Kenyan left behind an IED in Washington, that congress, in spite of understanding its unstable ticklish explosive nature, cant help but tinker with it to try to disarm it. My hat is off to President Emeritus Obama. It's like watching a chess master playing against a tic-tat-toe novice! Obama has the remote, but it wont be needed with these demolition expurts!
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#299622 - 03/16/17 05:33 AM Re: The GOP masterminds sabotage behind Obamacare’s ‘death spiral’ [Re: TatumAH]
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If we just cut this little blue wire BOOM

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