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#304028 - 11/20/17 01:25 AM Re: Al Franken 2020 [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick


They're not a book publisher, so maybe double check for accuracy.
I have heard that she will be reporting for Sinclair however.
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#304029 - 11/20/17 02:25 AM Re: Al Franken 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Sinclair = Mercers, Bannon, Breitbart, et al. (Hit job?) Hmm
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#304030 - 11/20/17 04:28 AM Re: Al Franken 2020 [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick

Sinclair = Mercers, Bannon, Breitbart, et al. (Hit job?) Hmm


But there is no such thing as a BOOK deal for Sinclair because Sinclair is TELEVISION.
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#304031 - 11/20/17 05:33 AM Re: Al Franken 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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BELIEVE IT OR NOT..

I think I am actually feeling some compassion for Ms. Tweeden because I actually do believe that her beef was valid and that Al Franken did the stupid thing that night.
Here is what I do NOT believe:
1. That Al Franken should be forced to resign his Senate seat for his clumsy transgression in 2006.
2. Or that Al Franken is just as bad as a Harvey Weinstein.
3. Or that he doesn't deserve forgiveness.
Fortunately Leanne Tweeden, who is probably a reasonable person despite being a Republican, agrees with me on each of those three points. She said so on national TV the other day.
So yes, Franken needs defending because aside from that single dumb move, he's been a powerful advocate for women the whole time he has served.
And I am beginning to suspect that this whole circus has gotten away from Leanne Tweeden and is now out of her control, and that she was USED as a TOOL by the likes of Steve Bannon and Roger Stone, when all she wanted to do was make a single solitary point:
"Me too".

I can guarantee you the moment she is no longer useful to the Republicans, like if for instance if Al Franken emerges from this in good shape and newly chastened, they will turn on her or at the very least dump her or bury her, because Republicans don't give TWO SH!TS about sexual harassment.

The only reason they're cozy with her right now is because they see a chance to use her to unseat Franken.
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#304032 - 11/20/17 06:27 AM Re: Al Franken 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Not so much to unseat Franken, as to draw a false equivalence with Moore and Trump: "See, they all do it."

The false equivalence of course being an unwanted kiss and a practical joke gone bad versus terrified multiple teenage victims, teens exposed naked in dressing rooms, women grabbed by the genitals, raped, etc.

Moore molested a 14 year old girl, and I am pretty sure Trump raped a 13 year old girl and in both cases they used their position or wealth to scare the victim into silence.

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#304033 - 11/20/17 06:17 PM Re: Al Franken 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Welp, he did it again. rolleyes , mad , Hmm
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#304041 - Yesterday at 04:36 AM Re: Al Franken 2020 [Re: pdx rick]
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Is it me? Does this latest accusation seem a bit less believable than all the others we've heard about since Prescedent President Trump's first accuser stepped forward?

I'm trying to picture a state fair photo op. Everybody in line watching, along with your spouse, the photographer, those photo elves/escorters/hurryuppers, typical gawkers, pickpockets, etc. And there wasn't a crowd reaction? A punch in the nose from the spouse?

Tell me I'm not horribly biased because of my love for Al Franken.

Please.
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#304042 - Yesterday at 05:50 AM Re: Al Franken 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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A THIRD WOMAN has "come forward" claiming that Al Franken groped her.

Sen. Al Franken groped Arianna Huffington in 2000 photo shoot-NY Post

The so called victim:
"Al and I did a comedic sketch for Bill Maherís Politically Incorrect called Strange Bedfellows, in which the whole point, as the name makes clear, was that we were doing political commentary from bed," Huffington told the Post. "This shoot was looking back at the sketch, and we were obviously hamming it up for comedic effect."
"Iíve been great friends with Al and his wife Franni for over 20 years and there has never been anything remotely inappropriate in our interactions," she said.

The photographer has DECLINED to COMMENT, and yet...

An "unnamed source" described the encounter:
"Franken was clowning around, but it really isnít funny," said a source from the shoot. "Thatís his tactic, pretend like itís all a big joke. Arianna was pushing his hands away. He was groping her. There was some fun attached to it, but she wasnít enjoying it. She definitely told him to stop and pushed him away ... "
REALLY??

Now you TELL ME, how DESPERATE are the Republicans when they are pushing "unnamed sources" to be "MORE OFFENDED THAN THE VICTIM" and what does that tell us?
If you're more offended than the victim, or if you're offended even when there IS NO victim, or the "victim" flatly states that they are not a victim and they are NOT offended, then it becomes a statement ABOUT YOU and not the victim at all.

So here we are folks, three so called victims, NONE of them are willing to demand his resignation, and one even insists she is NOT a victim at all.
This ruse, this setup, is getting mighty thin, and thinner by the second.
I say let the Republicans skate with this and keep [censored] that chicken till they choke on it.
At this point, Al Franken has already won but I still want that investigation, so he can jam the silver stake right into the chest of the Republican Party on live television.

At this point, I'm also saying that Republicans are MOCKING every woman who actually HAS been sexually harassed.

My fellow Democrats who jumped up and called for Franken to step down now look like complete imbeciles, and they deserve to.
Three claims, NO call from the victims for him to resign, and ONE victim is publicly insisting she wasn't even a victim at all, ever, and that Franken's wife was in on the joke.

So yes, to all my liberal friends who were ready to throw Franken under the bus, you now look like IDIOTS, and you should.
The Republicans are openly MOCKING every woman who has actually BEEN assaulted, and you're helping them.

Learn from this, please....they're just getting STARTED.
If we can't view things objectively, we will lose it all, and most of the damage will be self inflicted.
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#304043 - Yesterday at 06:02 AM Re: Al Franken 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
If you're more offended than the victim, or if you're offended even when there IS NO victim, or the "victim" flatly states that they are not a victim and they are NOT offended, then it becomes a statement ABOUT YOU and not the victim at all.

Yup, Bill Maher says that too. I agree.

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
My fellow Democrats who jumped up and called for Franken to step down now look like complete imbeciles, and they deserve to.

Luckily no one from this site. laugh What kind of Dems do you hang-out with anyway? Hmm
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#304052 - Yesterday at 10:52 PM Re: Al Franken 2020 [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
If you're more offended than the victim, or if you're offended even when there IS NO victim, or the "victim" flatly states that they are not a victim and they are NOT offended, then it becomes a statement ABOUT YOU and not the victim at all.

Yup, Bill Maher says that too. I agree.

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
My fellow Democrats who jumped up and called for Franken to step down now look like complete imbeciles, and they deserve to.

Luckily no one from this site. laugh What kind of Dems do you hang-out with anyway? Hmm


Just the ones I come into contact with on a daily basis, Rick.
It's not like I am buddy buddy with them, I just see them and hear them talking.
And yes, a few of them ARE close friends, and I ripped them a new one, too.
So sick and tired of the Democrat "gag reflex" whenever Repukes try to shove their member you know where.
We should be whipping out a buck knife and chopping it off before they even get close enough.
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