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#307316 - 07/08/18 09:49 PM Re: TrumpTrade [Re: pondering_it_all]
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We should see a drop in the price of pork too...
The Chinese are hitting hard at industries that support Trump. So is Mexico, Canada, and Europe. When his base starts to squeal he'll back off and say it was all a joke. Then they'll all have a laugh and go back to squeezing brown people's balls to get their jollies.
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#307317 - 07/09/18 01:32 AM Re: TrumpTrade [Re: jgw]
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I am not sure that would be the case. Have you listened to Navarro talk about this? I think he believes the US would win a trade war with everyone. He believes they would blink first. If I were them, I would say GFY Mr Trump and the horse you rode in on.

BTW, I don't think a failing economy as a result of a trade war would erode his support. These are ignorant people who have been touched by the Master and they will not falter. Hopefully it will galvanize and energize everyone else to vote against Mr Trump and anyone he supports.
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#307320 - 07/09/18 04:41 PM Re: TrumpTrade [Re: rporter314]
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Originally Posted By: rporter314
I am not sure that would be the case. Have you listened to Navarro talk about this? I think he believes the US would win a trade war with everyone.
And we could "survive" a nuclear exchange, too!
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#307325 - 07/09/18 07:18 PM Re: TrumpTrade [Re: jgw]
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Virtually everything the jackass has done has ended up helping Russia - EVERYTHING! There are a number of folks who believe he is in their pocket and I think I have joined up with that group. Hopefully, somebody will put a stop to it but who knows?

I also don't think he is going to back off of this even a little bit. There have been a number of polls about them getting beat up so far and the consensus is that they are holding fast and believe in the jackass.

I consider the whole thing to be a Republican administration doing its thing to cause an economic downturn. This is what Republicans do! The only reason everybody isn't aware of this is because they don't read their history and nobody on the other side has bothered to tell them. The difference, this time, is that we have the incredibly ignorant jackass in charge. He, obviously, wants it NOW! Unfortunately, for us, he is going to get it.

The EU, Canada, Mexico, etc. have yet to weigh into the trade war but they have announced. In spite of only china having at it, so far, we are already starting the shed jobs. Give it a couple more months and its going to be much worse. I think the jackass is on his way to insult the EU, dis NATO, and kiss the Russian rear. I suspect that will stir stuff up and everybody will jump on the tariff the United States bandwagon. I continue to believe that when its all said and done this Republican downturn will be really bad.

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#307396 - 07/12/18 07:03 PM Re: TrumpTrade [Re: jgw]
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The results are starting to come in:
[url=ps://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/07/12/upshot/trade-war-cost-families.html][url=ps://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/07/12/upshot/trade-war-cost-families.html][url=ps://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/07/12/upshot/trade-war-cost-families.html]ps://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/07/12/upshot/trade-war-cost-families.html[/url][/url][/url]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...m=.3db409376a8b

This is just the opening bell. The Jackass has now raised the bid on China, from 20 Billion to 200 billion. This being the case the above reference will, in theory, go up by 10 times in the next month or so. Remember, Canada, the EU, and Mexico have yet to weigh in.

I do notice, however, that people are starting to talk, on TV, about the jackass being in the pocket of the Russians, right out loud. Should also mention that Ryan, in support of the ex college wrasslin coach because of his "integrity and honesty". Mr Ryan is, obviously an expert in these issues?

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#307402 - 07/12/18 10:41 PM Re: TrumpTrade [Re: jgw]
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I would not be too surprised to hear about gay scandals connected to wrestling. I have nothing against gays at all. I'm just saying that wrestling has a certain homo-erotic appeal to it. All those really cut guys, in full contact and skimpy costumes, sweating and grunting. It's not baseball!

Dennis Hastert was a college wrestling coach, too. And we all know how that went.

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#307410 - 07/13/18 04:46 PM Re: TrumpTrade [Re: pondering_it_all]
jgw Offline
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AND a wrassler before that!

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#307569 - 07/20/18 09:08 PM Re: TrumpTrade [Re: jgw]
jgw Offline
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Registered: 05/22/06
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Loc: Port Angeles, WA
The trade war continues. Texas is bracing for a 40,000 job loss, California for a loss of 1 out of every 7 jobs and the northern tier states have the same kinds of problems. The auto industry can not longer buy parts for reasonable prices so its already starting to talk about slowdowns. I think BMW has already shut down and Mercedese (largest car factory in the nation) is talking about doing the same as are the American manufacturers. Agriculture has already been hit hard and its unlikely they will regain market share even when trade wars stop. The good news, however, is that cherry prices are down since they have lost their offshore markets.

I could post sites but just google stuff like "tarrif trade war jobs"

I think the standard Republican economic downturn will be a lot quicker than normal and, even when its all over, we will have lost market share that we once owned insofar as the EU, China, Mexico and Canada are concerned. This means that the jobs lost are not likely to come back real quick as they have been replaced with new suppliers due to our tariff stuff.

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