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#307319 - 07/09/18 04:38 PM Leaving the Party
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It is almost Biblical, like Moses parting the Red Sea, to watch a growing list of prominent conservatives leave the Republican Party entirely, urge voters to back Democrats in the midterm elections, or both.
George Will, Joe Scarborough lead midterm exodus from GOP - The Hill (Opinion).

It is probably natural that Millenial women are leaving the Republican Party in droves (Washington Examiner). The party hasn't supported women's issues in decades. As the leaders of the "Republicans for Choice" said in closing up shop:
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For years we have debated whether to close our doors. Our founding principle had been that proponents of abortion rights should be comfortable in both major parties. But we have to face reality: There probably will not be a single pro-choice Republican member of the House after the fall election, and only two in the Senate — Ms. Collins and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska.

It has become taboo within the party to even say “pro-choice.” Most of our supporters gave up on the party as it moved to the extremes not just on abortion but also on other social and fiscal issues.

This Republican Party is no family of ours. And so we say goodbye.
Why We Are Leaving the G.O.P. (NYT, Opinion, Subscription)

But now we have genuine conservative stalwarts jumping ship: George Will, Joe Scarborough, Steve Schmidt, Max Boot. Max Boot is even urging Republicans to vote Democratic: I left the Republican Party, and now, I want Democrats to take over - Denver Post (Opinion, Subscription).
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I spent years writing for conservative publications such as the Wall Street Journal editorial page and Commentary magazine and working as a foreign policy adviser for three Republican presidential campaigns. Being conservative used to be central to my identity. But now, frankly, I don’t give a damn. I prefer to think of myself as a classical liberal, because “conservative” has become practically synonymous with “Trump lackey.”


The thinking, here, is that it will take a bloodbath to remake the Republican Party and rid it of the excrement at the bottom. As Boot puts it, "Like postwar Germany and Japan, the Republican Party must be destroyed before it can be rebuilt." (I have advocated the same position for some time). Of course, there are apologists who disagree, but I wonder if the influence of these thinkers will sway anyone, anymore. One can only hope.
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#307329 - 07/09/18 09:14 PM Re: Leaving the Party [Re: NW Ponderer]
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The Republican party has taken on defined groups that do not have enough members, themselves, to constitute a party. There are two main groups, the Libertarians and the Evangelists. It used to be the party of 'conservatives' now the Libertarians and Evangelists seem to have formed an unholy alliance and the real conservatives are, pretty much, ignored.

If anybody thinks that 'conservative' means libertarian or social conservative they would be mistaken. They are NOT the same! I am not conservative but understand them. The interesting thing about conservatives is that, in the end, they want, almost exactly, the same thing as the liberals want. I have known several 'conservatives' that figured the best candidate would be one that was fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I think, now, that might be a description of a good part of the Democratic party.

I am thinking of writing about this in a different forum sometime. I think, however, that its a point that should be made right now just to make things marginally clearer. Years ago, incidentally, I was a genuine, card carrying Libertarian for several years.


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#307334 - 07/10/18 03:42 AM Re: Leaving the Party [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Everyone is entitled to make mistakes in their youth, jgw. I, myself, voted for Republicans in the past.
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