Originally Posted By: olyve
 Originally Posted By: issodhos
 Originally Posted By: olyve
 Originally Posted By: issodhos
 Originally Posted By: olyve
what are your thoughts about certain 'social' issues like education, health care and support for people who are unable to work due to health reasons (mental or physical)?


Do you support your taxes going to pay for these items, olyve?
Yours,
Issodhos
I very much do, Issodhos.
Basic education, health care and assistance to those unable to feed themselves is essential to a healthy and safer society in my opinion and I don't mind doing my part to pay for it.


Then you would not hesitate to voluntarilly contribute the money currently taken from you by government taxation, to be spent on these things you support, for those who could not afford them?
Yours,
Issodhos
Far be it from me to be suspicious, Isso but is this a trick question?
It seems to me that you're asking the same thing again.
Yes I do voluntarily pay taxes and wish more of them would go to pay for social programs I've mentioned.

Rich people who manage to avoid paying taxes piss me off so no I'm not going to advocate that I pay and others who don't care about the same things I do, don't.
I'm paying for plenty that I don't support...like the war. Like big bail outs.


No, it is not a trick question, olyve, and no, you do not "voluntarilly" pay your taxes. You are not even given the opportunity to "voluntarily" pay your taxes. If you refuse to pay them you will be taken to court and ordered to pay them plus penalties and interest or go to jail.

In answering the question in the affirmative, you have indicated that you would contribute the same amount of money (or more, if enough of your tax burden were eliminated) to support assistance programs run by private charities that you consider worthy. Unless you consider yourself superior in compassion to others, there is no reason to think that others would not also provide financial and other assistance to those in need. Of course, you and others would find yourselves at liberty to freely choose what charitable programs of assistance you think worthy of your support based on what their purpose is and how efficient they are at delivering that support. In other words, a power co-opted by the state would be returned to its rightful source -- you.

As to paying for things you do not support, they are happening under the current system that you prefer to keep -- with minor tweaking by you as to who gets how much -- a collectivist-based system which continues to fail to improve the condition of those for whom you express concern. Indeed, the groups of people you reference seem to be increasing yearly.

It should also be noted that "bail outs" would not take place in a libertarian-influenced society, and elective wars would be difficult to launch because the monetary system (through the government created Federal Reserve, fiat money, and fractional banking) would no longer be an extention of the government for purposes of financing its power-accreting programs and wars. These are things that take place under the system you continue to support. It is time for change. Yes we can!!;-)
Yours,
Issodhos
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