Originally Posted By: Ardy

After all, lots of people voted for George Bush cause they believed in smaller and less intrusive government that did not spend money it did not have. We didn't get what we thought we were getting with G Bush... and I am not real sure that we would get real libertartianism even in the best case.

I am quite sure that you wouldn't get libertarianism as a result --- and that Issodhos would be horrified by the results.

Cloud-Cuckooland never turns into cold, hard reality ---- no matter how hard you believe in it.

The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools -- Herbert Spencer