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Ahem! I was not the person who first wandered off into volumetric side issues !!

http://readerrant.capitolhillblue.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=229957#Post229957

Let he who is without sin cup the first breast !!

................but, good my brother,
Do not as some ungracious pastors do,
Show me the steep and thorny way to heaven,
Whiles like a puff'd and reckless libertine,
Himself the primrose path of dalliance treads,
And recks not his own rede.

---Hamlet, act 1, scene three
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The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools -- Herbert Spencer