Sometimes i wonder about my ability to communicate my ideas

I thought i said that i neither endorse or excuse these so called militia

I was trying to identify the broader problem that is much more widespread and in truth has achieved significant resonance

I was trying to point out the diverse. Nature of the people responding

And the imo fact that in listening to these people they seem sincerely deluded
And where as a gang would typically have clear leadership and objectives
And those leaders and gang members would have huge investment of profit and self interest

Where as these. Guys seem to me to think themselves self sacrificing patriots

And by the way i agree that deluded people are also often dangerous
So i am not overlooking the danger

Lets assume that we recognize the problem and want to deal with it

We cannot arrest our way out of this problem

And i think that the battle to change minds will not be won by labeling people as evil when they think of themselves as patriots. Public perception on this issue will not be won by the above approach

By way of comparison
Drone warfare will not solve islamic extremism
To some extent that problem requires a more nuanced approach that includes trying to understand the appeal.
And where possible stop making the situation worse
Which again is not to dismiss the danger nor ti excuse what these people do
But hating them back and calling them evil doers is kind of a boneheaded response

And likewise fir the militia. Calling them names gets us no where.

More later
"It's not a lie if you believe it." -- George Costanza
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. --Bertrand Russel