don't ever use that s word

Not if you want to win the election. It sucks, but it's a fact of life.

Socialist ideas and programs are fine, as long as the majority of voters like them. In particular, I think Democrats can make a great case for single-payer just in terms of job mobility and being competitive with all the other countries that have that. No need to bring up the fact that it is the right thing to do. Just show how it saves a lot of money in the big picture. Most successful socialist programs we have actually make a lot of sense economically. Libertarian ideas like toll roads everywhere would cost a lot more than having the government do it.