Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: perotista
When you've been around as long as I have, you hear that about almost every president. At least since Reagan. The opposite party says the same or something very close. Republicans were calling those who followed Obama as Obama cultist or Obamabots.

So if one has a differing political view, a very partisan political view, is highly loyal to a political party while think the other evil, be it the president or political party or both. That's not uncommon.


How about when it's a person who spent most of their adult life as a Moonie, a real actual cult?

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On the afternoon of Nov. 18, 1978, Jim Jones called his followers to the central pavilion of Jonestown, a sprawling outpost in the jungles of Guyana, and ordered them to drink a lethal mixture of cyanide and fruit punch. Over 900 people perished that day, more than a third of them children. As he lay dying of a bullet wound to the head—a less painful way to go than cyanide and one that he probably orchestrated—Jones told his followers that it was “all the media’s fault. Don’t believe them.”


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As I argue in my upcoming book, The Cult of Trump: A Leading Cult Expert Explains How The President Uses Mind Control (Simon & Schuster), Trump has gotten where he is today in large part because he has exploited tactics straight out of that playbook. These include his grandiose claims, his practice of sowing confusion, his demand for absolute loyalty, his tendency to lie and create alternative “facts” and realities, his shunning and belittling of critics and ex-believers, and his cultivating of an “us versus them” mindset. These are the same methods used by Moon, Jones, and other cult leaders such as L. Ron Hubbard (Scientology), David Koresh (Branch Davidians), Lyndon LaRouche (LaRouche PAC), and, most recently, convicted trafficking felon Keith Raniere (NXVIM).

Take It From a Former Moonie: Trump Is a Cult Leader

I'm sure if you stick around long enough we will hear from some former Scientologists, too.
And I have a lot of real actual personal knowledge of that bunch.

No...sorry, this is not just partisan hackery.
I am actually envious of your position...you never did tell us what you do that allows you to be a secure one-income traditional family that echoes memories of decades past.

But it's definitely not what forms the bulk of today's working class families. You are lucky, you are fortunate, you deserve praise and respect for your ability to have secured your blessings and good fortune.

But in this day and age - - you and your lovely family are the EXCEPTION, not the rule.
And you can take that to the bank because today four in ten working American families cannot cover a four hundred dollar expense even if they are a double income family.
I've linked to that often enough that it's easy to find.

You can afford to laugh it off as mere partisan hackery because with your secure position, little if anything Trump does will negatively impact your future.

And like I said, I am mildly envious, but I mean that as a compliment.
Thing is, it also means that your frame of reference is distorted.
You can't possibly know what it means to be directly impacted.


Maybe my frame of reference is distorted. But I think it more as being a political realist. I don't belong to any political party, I'm not very ideological and surely not partisan as I vote for candidates from both major parties and from third parties as well. For whom I deem the best candidate regardless of party.

There's an old saying, Politics is the art of the possible. I study the electorate, especially independents, swing voters and have a fairly good record determining what is possible and what isn't. At least when it comes to payback for trying to do the impossible or even succeeding against the majorities wishes. 2010 was an example of succeeding with the agenda, but losing control of any agenda for the next six years, six wasted years. You have to be able to know how far to go and not go over that line. Going over means you'll going to pay dearly in the next election which is usually the first midterm.

If you want to think of Trump as a cult leader, be my guess. But in the end it isn't what you or I think of Trump, it is what those who go to the polls in November think. That is what I try my best to figure out, who wins in November.

Don't worry, I'm not voting for Trump, I'll vote for Biden. I always liked Joe, when he was a senator and as VP. It's a shame he isn't 10 years younger as I always said the Democrats needed this year was a fresh young face, if from flyover country, so much the better. They've had pretty good luck with that. Obama, Illinois 2008, Bill Clinton, Arkansas, 1992, Jimmy Carter, Georgia, 1976.
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It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.