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Originally Posted By: Ma_Republican
Mexico has guard towers with machine guns on their southern border


Excuse me but now you're venturing off into something you apparently know little or nothing about, sir.

Mexico has few if ANY guard towers, WE have the guard towers, WE have the machine guns.

And the border is as porous as a worn out kitchen sponge from one end to the other. The fence is nowhere near complete, the towers that WE have installed do not cover the entire border, and our border patrol is undermanned.

The US southern border is not the problem, it's the no man's land in between, both south of the border and north of it.
South of it, bribes and intimidation by the cartels effectively neutralize any attempt by Mexico to deal with it.
Border crossing and human trafficking forms the ENTIRE ECONOMY of ENTIRE Mexican TOWNS along the US Mexican border.

Please Tim, stick with what you know. You live in Massachusetts. Between my time in California and in Texas, traveling tens of thousands of miles a year and doing what I do, I have thirty years worth of knowledge and experience about the border situation.

You have "television".


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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Ma_Republican
Mexico has guard towers with machine guns on their southern border


Excuse me but now you're venturing off into something you apparently know little or nothing about, sir.

Mexico has few if ANY guard towers, WE have the guard towers, WE have the machine guns.

And the border is as porous as a worn out kitchen sponge from one end to the other. The fence is nowhere near complete, the towers that WE have installed do not cover the entire border, and our border patrol is undermanned.

The US southern border is not the problem, it's the no man's land in between, both south of the border and north of it.
South of it, bribes and intimidation by the cartels effectively neutralize any attempt by Mexico to deal with it.
Border crossing and human trafficking forms the ENTIRE ECONOMY of ENTIRE Mexican TOWNS along the US Mexican border.

Please Tim, stick with what you know. You live in Massachusetts. Between my time in California and in Texas, traveling tens of thousands of miles a year and doing what I do, I have thirty years worth of knowledge and experience about the border situation.

You have "television".


Since I cannot locate the information, I will bow to your superior experience.

It really doesn't matter though, they do not belong here. They did not follow the rules and immigration laws for entry and if they want refugee status, then let Mexico give it to them. The idea that they traveled though Mexico to the US eliminates that status. A refugee seeks temporary help until they can return to their homes. Refugees cause issues wherever they locate because they are, invariably, either infiltrated and co-opted by gangs/armed insurgents or are sheltered in hastily created slums.

Send them back, let them fight for their homeland. If they are so easily run out of their home country, why would we want them here?


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Originally Posted By: Ma_Republican
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
...Please Tim, stick with what you know. ...
... The idea that they traveled though Mexico to the US eliminates that status. A refugee seeks temporary help until they can return to their homes. Refugees cause issues wherever they locate because they are, invariably, either infiltrated and co-opted by gangs/armed insurgents or are sheltered in hastily created slums....
Does this information have a legal or factual basis, or is it simply more temious Wingnut blowhardery?


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Ah...a whole new batch of undocumented Democrats. Next up is the bag of welfare goodies.


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Ibid. wink


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Attention!! Now taking donations to the WingNut Republican Fund To Tear Down That Statue, Mr. Obama!!

And get rid of this heinous commie graffiti that is carved into the base of it:
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Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses, yearning to breath free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless, tempest tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.


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LoL, beat me to it Log. I suppose we should send back all those Vietnamese, Chinese, Korean, Iranian and Iraqi refugees from our previous conflicts, too. Clearly some information about asylum status is in order.

There was a tradition, at least at times in our history, when immigrants were welcomed. Remember the old "melting pot"? The whole "illegal immigrant" schtick is about misdirection (deliberate or not). "They" are "illegal" because our immigration system is so messed up it takes too much time and money to go through proper channels to get here legally.

I have a relative who just married a foreign national. She has traveled here several times, first on a student visa, then on a work visa (she is a journalist). Now, because she has married a US citizen, she has to be unemployed to show she is not here to work, but instead he has to show he has enough assets to support her even though she is perfectly capable of working, but now she can't because she has the wrong kind of visa. Work your way through that.


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If you want to speak intelligently about immigration, start with the Immigration Website .


A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.

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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Scoutgal
The unregulated militia is on it's way to California


Don't worry about the Mayor of Murrietta, he appears to be caught in something he never dreamed possible and is simply incompetent and incapable of handling the situation.
Murrietta is a very small town.
It's doubtful anyone expected something of this proportion.

And as regards the faux patriots and their militia, if they cross into California, they're in for something a lot more surprising than a mere law.

They might indeed START something but I suspect more than a few very capable residents will end it.


I hope you're right.


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Originally Posted By: Ma_Republican
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Ma_Republican
Mexico has guard towers with machine guns on their southern border


Excuse me but now you're venturing off into something you apparently know little or nothing about, sir.

Mexico has few if ANY guard towers, WE have the guard towers, WE have the machine guns.

And the border is as porous as a worn out kitchen sponge from one end to the other. The fence is nowhere near complete, the towers that WE have installed do not cover the entire border, and our border patrol is undermanned.

The US southern border is not the problem, it's the no man's land in between, both south of the border and north of it.
South of it, bribes and intimidation by the cartels effectively neutralize any attempt by Mexico to deal with it.
Border crossing and human trafficking forms the ENTIRE ECONOMY of ENTIRE Mexican TOWNS along the US Mexican border.

Please Tim, stick with what you know. You live in Massachusetts. Between my time in California and in Texas, traveling tens of thousands of miles a year and doing what I do, I have thirty years worth of knowledge and experience about the border situation.

You have "television".


Since I cannot locate the information, I will bow to your superior experience.

It really doesn't matter though, they do not belong here. They did not follow the rules and immigration laws for entry and if they want refugee status, then let Mexico give it to them. The idea that they traveled though Mexico to the US eliminates that status. A refugee seeks temporary help until they can return to their homes. Refugees cause issues wherever they locate because they are, invariably, either infiltrated and co-opted by gangs/armed insurgents or are sheltered in hastily created slums.

Send them back, let them fight for their homeland. If they are so easily run out of their home country, why would we want them here?


Immigrants don't belong here? Then pack up your belongings and go back to your ancestors' country of origin. The Native Americans surely did not ask y'all to be here. Yet, your ancestors came here(no passports, visas or invitations), and took the land and marginalized the native population. How does it feel to have the moccasin on the other foot?



Pluck the beam out of your won eye, before trying to remove the splinter from others.


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