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As Confucius say; Ho Li Shiit... Bow

That was Heavenly and Poetic. When it comes to liturgicals, them Pagans is kickin' arse and takin' names! ThumbsUp


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To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
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Not heavenly at all my friend, very Earthy in fact. Atheists need to get their heads out of their asses and realize that a lot of the work has already been done for them. The groundwork has been laid for non theistic fellowship celebrating nature, life, community, and science.
I will consider them allies though, in that they are trying to create a religion for the future, much like NeoPagans, outside the stifling, exclusive and tribal Abrahamic "Big Three" which are nothing more than Middle Eastern political inventions intended to control warring tribes and factions using fear of some all powerful deity and offering rewards only to be delivered only after death.


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Originally Posted By: Greger
Greetings all this Modraniht.

This collection of ten mealymouthed suggestions falls far short of what any thinking atheist should be able to assemble as "commandments" to contain an unruly society. They aren't cohesive nor memorable, drawn from a hat and thrown together without rhyme or reason. Gardnerian Wiccans did a far better job of assembling a bit of liturgy to live by, summed up at the end: Do what you will as long as it harms no one else.

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The Wiccan Rede


Bide within the Law you must, in perfect Love and perfect Trust.
Live you must and let to live, fairly take and fairly give.

For tread the Circle thrice about to keep unwelcome spirits out.
To bind the spell well every time, let the spell be said in rhyme.

Light of eye and soft of touch, speak you little, listen much.
Honor the Old Ones in deed and name,
let love and light be our guides again.

Deosil go by the waxing moon, chanting out the joyful tune.
Widdershins go when the moon doth wane,
and the werewolf howls by the dread wolfsbane.

When the Lady's moon is new, kiss the hand to Her times two.
When the moon rides at Her peak then your heart's desire seek.

Heed the North winds mighty gale, lock the door and trim the sail.
When the Wind blows from the East, expect the new and set the feast.

When the wind comes from the South, love will kiss you on the mouth.
When the wind whispers from the West, all hearts will find peace and rest.

Nine woods in the Cauldron go, burn them fast and burn them slow.
Birch in the fire goes to represent what the Lady knows.

Oak in the forest towers with might, in the fire it brings the God's
insight. Rowan is a tree of power causing life and magick to flower.

Willows at the waterside stand ready to help us to the Summerland.
Hawthorn is burned to purify and to draw faerie to your eye.

Hazel-the tree of wisdom and learning adds its strength to the bright fire burning.
White are the flowers of Apple tree that brings us fruits of fertility.

Grapes grow upon the vine giving us both joy and wine.
Fir does mark the evergreen to represent immortality seen.

Elder is the Lady's tree burn it not or cursed you'll be.
Four times the Major Sabbats mark in the light and in the dark.

As the old year starts to wane the new begins, it's now Samhain.
When the time for Imbolc shows watch for flowers through the snows.

When the wheel begins to turn soon the Beltane fires will burn.
As the wheel turns to Lamas night power is brought to magick rite.

Four times the Minor Sabbats fall use the Sun to mark them all.
When the wheel has turned to Yule light the log the Horned One rules.

In the spring, when night equals day time for Ostara to come our way.
When the Sun has reached it's height time for Oak and Holly to fight.

Harvesting comes to one and all when the Autumn Equinox does fall.
Heed the flower, bush, and tree by the Lady blessed you'll be.

Where the rippling waters go cast a stone, the truth you'll know.
When you have and hold a need, harken not to others greed.

With a fool no season spend or be counted as his friend.
Merry Meet and Merry Part bright the cheeks and warm the heart.

Mind the Three-fold Laws you should three times bad and three times good.
When misfortune is enow wear the star upon your brow.

Be true in love this you must do unless your love is false to you.

These Eight words the Rede fulfill:

"An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will"


Excellent rules, and very memorable! Welcome back, Greger!


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That certainly is convenient for the church, now isn't it? Talk about privatizing profit and socializing costs!

This is as old as mankind: Some weird old smelly guy got up in front of the tribe and convinced them they should feed him because "Big Bogey Man In The Sky" wills it so. Thus was created the first shaman. Everything else is just a more elaborate version of that original scam.

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Kinda makes me think of folks saying "He's in a better place now" after someone dies. Bullshit. In a casket in the dirt or burned into ashes is most certainly not a better place. If you cannot find genuine happiness and true joy before you shuffle off this mortal coil then you are doing something wrong.


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Think Mel Brooks and his Moses in The History of The World. He comes down and says : "I have these twenty commandments" and then drops one and follows with "I have these ten commandments."


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Originally Posted By: keysersoze
Think Mel Brooks and his Moses in The History of The World. He comes down and says : "I have these twenty commandments" and then drops one and follows with "I have these ten commandments."
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Do you suppose in 400 years The History of the World will be discovered in a cave and become known as the Gospel According To Mel?


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There are actually about 500 commandments in the Torah. I wouldn't want to be an Orthodox Jew. You would spend your whole live worrying about every little detail. One appealing aspect of Jesus is that he summed everything up into two simple rules: Love God, and love your neighbor. Everything beyond that is commentary, as they say.

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