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Originally Posted By: Irked
Agreed: legal graft might be an even more apt term. Campaign finance in the US is an embarrassment.


The problem with campaign finance reform is when they do it, they just make more loopholes and enlarge the loopholes they have. Pacs and super pacs are relatively new to the political scene, a results of campaign finance reform.

Third party political ads is also relatively new. No limits on them. Prior to several campaign finance reform acts, one had to donate directly to the candidates, although there were no limits way back when. But it was the candidates and the candidate's organizations that ran the ads. You knew who to blame or give credit to. We have a real mess on our hands now.


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
I have identified the problems and given proposals for solutions.

Wether you can understand simple concepts of universal basic goods and services is another subject.

I concede. You win. I learned yet another lesson...


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Welcome to the club, logtroll. It took me a good long while but Ive also learned that lesson.


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ThumbsUp Bow rolleyes


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I really hoped you had something to offer for consideration.

Metaphors, quote references and fronting? Thats all you had?

Why is most innovative, disruptive thinking usually nothing more than dressed up salesmanship?

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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
I really hoped you had something to offer for consideration.

Metaphors, quote references and fronting? Thats all you had?

Why is most innovative, disruptive thinking usually nothing more than dressed up salesmanship?

Do your friends tell you youre a bully?


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No.
Sorry to have bullied you logs.
Ill bow out of this.

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