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The directive, part of a larger order restricting the behavior of the 22,000 soldiers under Maj. Gen. Anthony Cucolo's command, is meant to prevent losing soldiers at a time when troop strength is stretched thin, Cucolo explained in a statement sent to the troops under his command and provided to CNN.

This seems to me a statement that the directive is to prevent something in the future.

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What this is about is women having used pregnancy as means of rotating before their scheduled date, either in or out.

indicates the directive is intended to correct a past wrong.

Slipped - are you suggesting that women in the military have used pregnancy to avoid duty, and have done so in such numbers as to cause an order like this to be necessary?

As I see it, while not a direct accusation of treason, it is at least a suggestion that dereliction of duty by means of pregnancy has been a problem - that the cowardice of female soldiers is at the source of this order.

I may be misreading what appears to be a very serious charge. If so, please clarify for me. Otherwise, your evidence for that charge is...?


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If one of those pregnant female soldiers opts for an immediate abortion, then is the charge dropped?

The idea that the military will punish their soldiers if they want to keep their baby might have some interesting play among certain segments of our political spectrum!

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Originally Posted by pondering_it_all
If one of those pregnant female soldiers opts for an immediate abortion, then is the charge dropped?

The idea that the military will punish their soldiers if they want to keep their baby might have some interesting play among certain segments of our political spectrum!

As a follow-up - if one of those pregnant female soldiers opts for an immediate abortion, will the military provide it?


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I assumed that the military would have to provide it, for a soldier stationed in a war zone. But that brings up some other interesting points:

For example, what about a married female soldier who spends some leave time with her husband and then discovers she is pregnant once she is back in the war zone? Even if she and her spouse were careful to use birth control, each method does have an accidental failure rate. Was she supposed to abstain until her enlistment contract is up? Or would sticking to non-intercourse sex acts be the commander's rule?

You know, they wouldn't have this problem with gay soldiers: Maybe they need to recruit more of them?

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Oh, yes, the "A" word. Ain't no way in hell the religionists of America are going to allow their soldiers to have an abortion paid for with U.S. tax money. Hell, the last I heard they've taken the Playboys out of the PXs. God forbid these people would be having sex outside of marriage and drinking alcohol under age. It's a great deal more moral in the military than it used to be.

A certain mouthy group of Americans would like nothing more than for 17 year old men and women to enter the army, to go to war (several times) kill Muslims, separate from the army in 3 years (before they are 21) and be most Godly and Christian while doing it. There's nothing wrong, they'd tell you, with killing people and seeing the the unbelievable horrors of war. Just make sure you are chaste and sober and pure in heart. No nekkid books.

Abortions paid for by the US Army won't get talked about in public and are likely few and far between anyway.




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Originally Posted by pondering_it_all
You know, they wouldn't have this problem with gay soldiers: Maybe they need to recruit more of them?

My thoughts exactly. Frankly it sounds to me like a "women don't beling in the military" ploy.


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Welp,

The deal is off. The general is apparently reversing his court-martial threat.

Wonder what the smallest size helmets and bullet proof vest can be issued by the U.S. Military?


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According to an NPR story this morning - I need to double-check that I heard right - this has affected 4 - that's FOUR - women. Three men, because one of the women didn't identify the father.

Of the 1600 women in the general's area.

That 1600 being .07 of his total forces.

I don't think pregnancy is the major issue here, although I'm not sure what is.

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Originally Posted by pondering_it_all
Or would sticking to non-intercourse sex acts be the commander's rule?

You know, they wouldn't have this problem with gay soldiers: Maybe they need to recruit more of them?

I think this may have been a barracks rumor, but I could swear that as far as the UCMJ is concerned, any act other than vaginal intercourse and the missionary position is punishable under the section of the UCMJ that handles Sodomy


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