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More than 30 Top U.S. Officials Guilty of War Crimes

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More than 30 top U.S. officials, including presidents G.W. Bush and Obama, are guilty of war crimes or crimes against peace and humanity "legally akin to those perpetrated by the former Nazi regime in Germany," the distinguished American international law authority Francis Boyle charges.
"In international legal terms, the U.S. government itself should now be viewed as constituting an ongoing criminal conspiracy under international law," Besides the presidents, Boyle identified as war criminals Vice Presidents Dick Cheney and Joseph Biden; Secretaries of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Robert Gates and Leon Panetta; Secretaries of State Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, and Hillary Clinton; National Security Advisors Stephen Hadley, James Jones, and Thomas Donilon; Director of National Intelligence John Negroponte and James Clapper and Central Intelligence Agency(CIA) Directors George Tenet, Leon Panetta, and David Petraeus.
In the Pentagon, war criminals include the members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff....
The serial aggressions of the U.S. violate such basic documents of international law as the Nuremberg Charter, the Nuremberg Judgment, and the Nuremberg Principles, Boyle said. As well, they violate the Pentagon's own U.S. Army Field Manual 27-10 on The Law of Land Warfare, which applies to the President himself as Commander-in-Chief of U.S. Armed Forces under Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution.
Boyle said the so-called "targeted killing" of human beings in a non-battlefield situation is "pure murder" under basic principles of Anglo-American common law and international criminal law. And in this case, where these murders are both widespread and systematic, these murders constitute a Crime against Humanity under Article 7(1)(a) of the Rome Statute for the International Criminal Court.
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Oh well, I can think of a lot more than thirty still in the land of the living. wink


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Boyle said the so-called "targeted killing" of human beings in a non-battlefield situation is "pure murder" under basic principles of Anglo-American common law and international criminal law.


That just demonstrates that those laws are antiquated: They do not take into account a war that can occur without soldiers, cavalry, and cannons on a battlefield. They were obsolete back in the 1950s, when America and the Soviets built arsenals of nuclear tipped ICBMs. They continue to be obsolete now that we have asymmetric warfare in which a few individuals can wreak havoc and mass casualties upon the civilian populations of their enemies.

According to their logic, we just need to convince Al Queda to meet us on a Field of Honor, so we can settle this with a dual of our champions!

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According to their logic, we just need to convince Al Queda to meet us on a Field of Honor, so we can settle this with a dual of our champions!


Actually, better yet would be - as W.C. Fields suggested - the leaders of both countries should meet in an arena with socks filled with horse manure and beat each other over the head. Whoever is left standing is the winner. grin


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the leaders of both countries should meet in an arena with socks filled with horse manure and beat each other over the head. Whoever is left standing is the winner.


I prefer the Marxist* approach: Cream Pies at two paces.

* As in Groucho, Harpo, etc.

Seriously, though, "leaders of both countries" may not apply since an army may not have a particular country. Are Al Queda troops attacking an Afghan Army base soldiers or civilians? Since they have no uniforms, does that interfere with their soldier/civilian status? Are Blackwater "consultants" actually soldiers or civilians when they are reporting and taking orders (suggestions?) from a US officer?

Is the Commander-In_Chief of the US Armed Forces a soldier or a civilian? Does he even have a military uniform? If so, did he design it himself (like Chief Justice Roberts) with some extra bling to signify his special role? Hmm

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Good question. I suppose he could use George Washington's uniform - wig, wooden teeth and all. grin
Wouldn't need alteration: both are approximately the same height and weight wink

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That just demonstrates that those laws are antiquated: They do not take into account a war that can occur without soldiers, cavalry, and cannons on a battlefield....They continue to be obsolete now that we have asymmetric warfare in which a few individuals can wreak havoc and mass casualties upon the civilian populations of their enemies.

I am sure that Hitler would have approved of your elastic sense of morality.

How nice to know that American soldiers need fear no interference when they behave worse than maurauding Huns in countries that have never done the USA any harm.

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Obdurate Washington

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...Washington has such a large number of torture deaths from Abu Ghraib to Gitmo to the secret CIA torture centers to endless drone attacks on kids' soccer games, weddings, funerals, medical clinics, schools, farm houses and aid workers.
The evidence is completely clear that Washington has tortured a number of individuals to death and into false confessions and blown to pieces thousands of innocents known as "collateral damage." No one but Washington and its servants denies this....
The holier-than-thou presence that Washington presents to the world is so phony and shopworn that Washington is becoming not only despised but a laughing stock. People cease to fear the "superpower" when they laugh at its folly, hypocrisy and utter stupidity....
Washington is like the drunk in a bar who picks a fight with a bruiser. Washington is full of itself, but Russia and China are not going to put up with a financially busted and militarily overstretched popinjay.

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The holier-than-thou presence that Washington presents to the world is so phony and shopworn that Washington is becoming not only despised but a laughing stock.


American arrogance apparently knows no bounds.

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I am sure that Hitler would have approved of your elastic sense of morality.

How nice to know that American soldiers need fear no interference when they behave worse than maurauding Huns in countries that have never done the USA any harm.


I happen to think that invading Iraq WAS a war crime, and that many in the Bush Administration should have been tried in the ICC for that. I also think that everyone connected with torture should be right there in the docket with them.

But in the case of the military conflict between Al Queda and the US, everything the US has done is justified: Al Queda declared war on us, and their 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center was an illegal attack on a non-military target. (I think their attack on the Pentagon was NOT a war crime, since it is a proper military target. Their unsuccessful attack on the White House would also have been legitimate.)

So what are the Al Queda equivalents of the Pentagon? It is simply wherever their top leaders happens to be based, as they direct their troops. US drone attacks (or any other type of attacks) are not being directed at random groups of civilians. They are being made on locations where US intel leads us to believe (strongly) that Al Queda troops and/or leadership are present.

In summary: Intentional attacks on civilian populations are war crimes. Accidental civilian casualties in the course of attacks on military targets are not, but they should be minimized to the greatest extent possible simply because that is the right thing to do. There is no moral elasticity involved, just the rules of war in the real world.

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