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In case you haven't seen some of the devastation of the animals down under.
Pretty uncut video:

No one gets out alive

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I spent from 2015-2018 working directly on water management changes with respect to climate change, and worked on it part time for 5 years prior to that.

The consensus my coworkers and I arrived at is that the "everyone dies within X years" posturing hurts the effort more than helps it. Climate change isn't an event, it's a process, and it can be measured by a measurable decline in people's standards of living, from the bottom up...AND an increase in weather-created (or modified) disasters.

If you had told me in 2000 that a hurricane would trash an American city and we'd just leave it trashed, I'd have said you had a screw loose. If you had told me that a small city would burn down and nothing at all would be done afterward, I'd have called you crazy.

But here we are.

This s*** going on in Australia and the American Southwest is the new normal. It's how things are.


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CLEAN Future Act

The establishment Democrats answer to the Green New Deal.


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To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
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Originally Posted By: logtroll
CLEAN Future Act

The establishment Democrats answer to the Green New Deal.


The Green New Deal was a proposal cooked up without the luxury of a massive and well funded think tank, you know, the ones that spend every single day assembling polished and gavel-ready legislation that the congress critters don't even bother reading before voting on it.
What good would that do? If they read it, they might have objections, and when one of those massive think tanks hands you that packet, they don't intend for any mere congressman or senator to think or have objections...that's what gets you primaried by those think tanks!
No sir, you take the packet and the money and you do as you're told, that's what you do.

The Green New Deal was hatched at AOC's kitchen table, and although it distinctly lacked any polish, it also had some authenticity, like someone really cared.

I can't wait to smell the mimeo ink on this CLEAN Future Act.
I wonder which think tanks helped out on it.


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I am no longer convinced there is any normal at all. Normal's out the window. What scares me is that, eventually, the geo engineers are going to be called on simply because we humans simply do not have the capacity to do the right things.

This is, actually, no surprise..........

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Originally Posted By: logtroll
CLEAN Future Act

The establishment Democrats answer to the Green New Deal.


The Green New Deal was a proposal cooked up without the luxury of a massive and well funded think tank, you know, the ones that spend every single day assembling polished and gavel-ready legislation that the congress critters don't even bother reading before voting on it.
What good would that do? If they read it, they might have objections, and when one of those massive think tanks hands you that packet, they don't intend for any mere congressman or senator to think or have objections...that's what gets you primaried by those think tanks!
No sir, you take the packet and the money and you do as you're told, that's what you do.

The Green New Deal was hatched at AOC's kitchen table, and although it distinctly lacked any polish, it also had some authenticity, like someone really cared.

I can't wait to smell the mimeo ink on this CLEAN Future Act.
I wonder which think tanks helped out on it.


The think tank I'm associated with is most definitely not involved.

This will be handled by think tanks run by Exxon.


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Like the virus charts, this shows America way out in front of the rest of the world, proving once again what a truly terrific, beautiful, very strong job the greatest-president-ever is doing!


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He is also fulfilling every long term wet dream the conservatives have ever had. I the left can't take the White House this time around its on them! Most of what he is doing can be seen or will be seen. He has, for instance, reduced drinking water standards! Hopefully the Dems have the very long list of offenses against EVERYBODY and starts to mention 5 or 6 every ad. So far I haven't seen it but I continue to hope and believe that the Dems will actually go after the vote and educate the loons.

I also expect that there should be, in the next two months a lot of parents who sent their children to school in the south, at the bidding of their lord and mast, and now have school children who have been sick and saddled with physical and mental problem they will get to live with for the rest of their lives. This, I assume, should help the Dem cause as well?

On the other hand............

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Why do you imagine that it is the Democrat's duty to "educate the loons"?

They are as busy as the other side trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes.

And don't be calling the Democrats "the left" either, because there is nothing "left" about them. They are a purely centrist organization and they are fully owned and operated by corporate interests.

Democrats have actively spurned any candidates with progressive views or agendas...invariably funding and supporting their centrist opponents in primary races. You're going to need to look beyond what passes for opposition to the authoritarian right, Democrats are craven placeholders for what should be the battle of our lifetimes.

No such battle is going to occur. Big money has complete control and voters haven't the balls to elect candidates capable of governing.


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