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Seems like a good time to lay a bet...
Does Trump get prosecuted for crimes in office?

Takers?

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Does Trump get prosecuted for crimes in office?


No. There may be some fines and penalties that well never hear of but nothing of consequence. He won't be locked up and will spend his remaining years at Mar A Lago golfing.


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Agreed.
Itís not like his body count can compare to earlier administrations. If they were fine with that then whatís the hub bub about now?

Hmmm.,,. Maybe he didnít tow the imperial line, they might go after him as a warning?

Naw, I still think the Valhalla rule is more important than his lack of scalps on the DOD war post.

Sticking with no prosecution.

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Even if he wangles a federal pardon, I think New York is going to prosecute him, and I think the IRS and Deutschebank are going to collect their money. So he's going to end up pretty poor, if not bankrupt. New York State has no reason not to prosecute. Trump went out of his way to kill a whole bunch of their citizens with his pandemic decisions, and I'm not talking about even-handed general policies. He directed funds and equipment toward his Red State friends and away from New York and California, resulting in actual deaths. Why wouldn't New York prosecute any of his New York crimes? Tax Fraud and Bank Fraud at the least. Maybe Money Laundering, too.

I doubt he will end up at Mar-A-Lago, except as a paying guest, because he will lose it in the bankruptcy or foreclosures.

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The bank, I think, has already said they are collecting as soon as he is no longer president. New York too is going full speed ahead with their investigation. There is also the problem with all the money he has accepted whilst president. Seems that was also against the law and should be taken away too. Then he is also going to have to submit to having his dna taken in a case brought by one of his female victims and there about 20 more waiting in the wings as well. Then there are also literally hundreds of cases that have to do with debts not paid for services performed. Its all making for a busy court. Then there are the activities of the Trump 'kids' - I suspect they too need to be investigated as well.

As far as the Mueller report is concerned. The part I always found interesting is the fact that Trump was not called on his connection to Russia because ALL THE WITNESSES LIED! Mueller said that, right out loud. Apparently there was nothing Mueller could do about that (which kinda confuses, I think)

If the Dems don't do this they are committing political suicide as most agree that this is simply making sure that we remain a nation of law instead of being nation of loud and little else. We have had, many believe, including me, that we have had a lawless president and now that lawless president gets to pay the price (hopefully). There are many that claim that he will flee to Russia. That too, would be fine with me. Especially if they take his wealth before he leaves.

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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Even if he wangles a federal pardon, I think New York is going to prosecute him, and I think the IRS and Deutschebank are going to collect their money. So he's going to end up pretty poor, if not bankrupt. New York State has no reason not to prosecute. Trump went out of his way to kill a whole bunch of their citizens with his pandemic decisions, and I'm not talking about even-handed general policies. He directed funds and equipment toward his Red State friends and away from New York and California, resulting in actual deaths. Why wouldn't New York prosecute any of his New York crimes? Tax Fraud and Bank Fraud at the least. Maybe Money Laundering, too.

I doubt he will end up at Mar-A-Lago, except as a paying guest, because he will lose it in the bankruptcy or foreclosures.


What resources to what red states?

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I think New York is going to prosecute him, and I think the IRS and Deutschebank are going to collect their money. So he's going to end up pretty poor, if not bankrupt.


Fines, penalties and interest.

His massive real estate holdings and his offshore accounts will prevent any "poorness" from entering the Trump household.

He will fly free, now and forevermore.


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I doubt he will end up at Mar-A-Lago, except as a paying guest, because he will lose it in the bankruptcy or foreclosures.

It's his primary residence and he owns it outright. He will not lose Mar A Lago.


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What resources to what red states?


google "trump diverts resources to red states"
You will get over 2.3 million hits.

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