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I have been shot at a lot and nearly killed a bunch of times, said Gen. Barry Richard McCaffrey (ret.). Im not an alarmist. I stay cool under pressure. Mark me down as alarmed. I just listened to Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA) wonderful, experienced, mature guy say this is just payback to [Mark] Esper not being a loyalist. I dont believe it. Were watching a setup of some people who are unqualified for office to be in control of the 2.1 million men and women of the armed forces.

-Gen. Barry Richard McCaffrey (ret.) on MSNBC 11/11/20

This is what we know:
  • Trump says the election is a fraud
  • Trump fired the Secretary of Defense Esper and placed a guy who has no experience running the military
  • Currently installing 'unscalable fence' around the White House
Sounds like the General is on to something. Hmm


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you left out the part about CIA analysts who may have seen similar activities in 3rd world countries would have concluded there would be a high probability a coup was imminent.


So anyone think Gen McCaffrey is some nut case???? Not talking about Gen Tata, a certifiable nut.

So I have to ask again for the sake of all those folks who continue to say ,,, can't happen because etc etc. ... who would prevent it from happneing? ... the courts? ... Congress? ... the military? .... o yeah the people won't stand for it ....


so my question is who would stop him from declaring himself the duly elected president and remaining in office. If he has the balls to grab women, and believe he is above the law (and with good reason witgh AG Barr) he has the balls to start a coup


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His loyalists he installed at Justice are a very very thin layer. They might follow his illegal orders, but the vast majority of the folks there will not. Same goes for the military, the FBI, the Secret Service, etc. Trump's "army" consists mostly of Republican lawyers and a bunch of yahoos with AR-15s. The lawyers ultimately are useless, because all they do is file evidence-free lawsuits that get dismissed. If they ever get anything to the Supreme Court, Roberts has already said: "Not our job" with regard to overturning ACA today. I'm sure he and most of the court would not even consider ignoring all those state's certified votes.

This is about Trump ignoring the laws of the land, and Supreme Court Justices are all about respect for the law. It's their whole reason for existence.

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Let;s see

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His loyalists he installed at Justice are a very very thin layer.
True

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They might follow his illegal orders
Not might they will definitely follow illegal orders

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the vast majority of the folks there will not
So what if Gen Milley will not follow illegal or immoral orders, Gen Tata will. And what if Trump loyalists at DoD use their position to recruit military officers who are not just loyalists but true believers to defend Mr Trump??? What then? You reckon harsh language will stop them. Remember the shower room scene form the Rock? Would it come to this? Who knows but if you know any rabid Trump supporters I think you may have a clue.

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Trump's "army" consists mostly of Republican lawyers and a bunch of yahoos with AR-15s.
And how many people does it take to implement a successful coup? Lenin did it with a light push ... 3rd world dictators have done it with little or no bloodshed because people did not resist. So how would you stop it? seek remedy form the courts? ... people would not stand for it and what would they do ... carry signs ... shout slogans? ... what would Congress do? pass bills in outrage and Republican complicity ....

so if you have some outcome, other than he will just step down ... please let me hear it

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I'm sure he and most of the court would not even consider ignoring all those state's certified votes.
In normal times I would agree but why confirm 3 justices who were handpicked to uphold not just the Constitution but ultra conservative ideology. I can't base my trust in a belief they will do the right thing, when I know they were confirmed for all the wrong reasons.


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"And how many people does it take to implement a successful coup? Lenin did it with a light push ... 3rd world dictators have done it with little or no bloodshed because people did not resist."

Whaaaaa???

Light Push?

Didn't they fight a civil war?

Americans aren't ready to fight one of those, IMO.

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What qualifications did Esper have to run the military?

Besides being a Raytheon lobbyist?

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CNN reporting out same..

Trump administration installs advocate for quick Afghanistan withdrawal at Pentagon

Ohhh Nooo!!! How will the the congressional fail children get jobs on boards, think tanks, and political consultancy co's if their parents can't sell war anymore?


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Didn't they fight a civil war?


Not really, not in the sense we think of as a civil war. Nothing like our own bloody conflict.


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Rilly?

Whats all this about then? Looks bloody and multi-sided one to me.

Russian Civil War

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