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Yes ... basically there are two types of witnesses. The first are the numerologists or mathematical masseuses, who have found evidence of possible fraud because they have found anomalies in the chicken bones, and the second are the witnesses who have seen "strange" things which they have interpreted as voter fraud.

Neither of these types of witnesses have presented a single fraudulent vote.

The only thing the second type have "proven" is there are irregularities in voting, and if not mistaken, I believe every analysis of the last 10 general elections they would have seen the same type of irregularities. This of course does not prove voter fraud.


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Not so much "irregularities" as things they didn't expect or things they didn't understand. Like curing mail ballots by getting voter addresses and writing them on the envelope, which was authorized by state law and had been going on for several years.

One particularly funny objection was that districts run by Republicans decided not to cure mail ballots, even though that was explicitly allowed by state law. I guess they thought that would disenfranchise more Democrats than Republicans. Anyway, Giuliani et al claimed that was unconstitutional because voters did not get an equal chance of having their vote count. But this was an act by Republicans to not count Democrat's ballots!

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Actually, it is postal regulation that a return address must be appended to every item mailed and has been for more than 70 years.

I think it goes back to Post Master Ben Franklin

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I was being generous. I am fairly certain there are irregularities, as there are with almost any operation of this magnitude. And of course there was the inherent problem of a bunch of people who don't know how the system works. I have been watching some of the fraud hearings, and was surprised that some legislators did not know how the system worked. One would have thought some one vested in the results of an election would have some interest in how the votes were tabulated and reported. I really liked it when Republicans asked a question which was predicated on some form of fraud and an election official answered in the most obvious way precisely what was going on, and the Republican slipped back in their chair with the I know I had the smoking gun only to find out it was desert mirage look.

What I type in one forum is .... where's the beef????


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I guess the latest Giuliani fiasco is his star witness being drunk at a hearing investigating election complaints (or just loopy as hell?) and then The G-man farted in court. And then of course, his handlers have to restrain Trump from firing Barr for saying in public that Justice Department people have seen no fraud that could overturn any election.

Actually, being fired by Trump at this point might help when you get indicted for all the other shady crap you pulled for him. I bet Barr has figured out the Jeff Sessions strategy.

Speaking of firing people: Who would want a 6 week gig replacing somebody Trump fired, considering all the harm that could do to your professional reputation? He fired most of the Defense Policy Board, to replace them with loyalists toadies. But I have yet to hear anything about replacements who want the job.

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From the scum dump Trump draws his help from it should be easy to find toadies who'll take the money and run. It's not like he's hiring "the best" or anything...


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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I guess the latest Giuliani fiasco is...

...that Rudy has Covid.

Hmm


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And probably spread it far and wide in Republican circles.

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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
And probably spread it far and wide in Republican circles.


Arizona Legislature shuts down after Rudy Giuliani possibly exposed lawmakers to COVID-19

LOL Dumbass Rudy Colludy has shut-down the ENTIRE AZ legislature for this week because he exposed them to Covid. You can't make this stuff up! Rightwingers are such idiots. smile



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Why would you say a mean thing like that! To you they are idiots but the simple fact is that they live in a different place and, in that place, Covid just isn't real. There are several reports, for instance, of people, in the hospital, dying and claiming that Covid isn't real whilst they do.

These people are not idiots, they are only mentally challenged. You should show them kindness and understanding and hope that the police put them away before they hurt themselves.

Well, ok, they are idiots!

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