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jgw #333747 04/14/21 06:51 PM
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here's something very interesting.

From the article.

Republicans who were there at the time say today’s landscape doesn’t lend itself to that kind of movement, for a variety of reasons. Biden’s perceived benignness — the difficulty in actually getting people to despise the guy — is just one of them.

Former Gov. Mark Sanford of South Carolina (often described as a Tea Partier before the Tea Party existed) told Nightly that unlike in 2009, “You don’t have that anger bubbling up where people are agitated and mad” that the banks got off easy and politicians helped them. Even if they were mad right now, he added, there isn’t a logical vehicle through which they’d channel that feeling.

“The Republican Party of late has lost its mind and lost its way,” Sanford said. “People who used to believe in some rock solid conservative ideas have bought into a cult of personality phenomenon with Trump and are less ideologically vocal than they were 10-plus years ago.”

As Sanford sees it — and, keep in mind, he’s no Trump fan — a movement like the Tea Party emerges when people galvanize around ideas. When they galvanize around an individual, they’re really just waiting for that individual to act or guide them. Put another way: While the Tea Party exploited a GOP leadership vacuum in 2009, there is a need for a vacuum in 2021.

there's more here.

How Trump prevents a new Tea Party from brewing

https://www.politico.com/newsletter...ents-a-new-tea-party-from-brewing-492461


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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Yeah, they are really having a hard time drumming up "Biden Hate" on Fox News. Most of their "scandals" fall apart or are ridiculous to begin with. He's White. He's Christian. Catholic even like a lot of the Supreme Court picks by Republicans! Supports the infrastructure bill, but thinks we need to pay for it. (And who doesn't like free money? Or favor soaking billionaires?) Is reluctant to change the filibuster.

Hard to portray him as a Socialist, since he is about the least Socialist former Senator ever.


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Biden has fallen some with independents which I follow very closely. His job approval among independents has fallen from 49% approve the first part of February down to 43% approve today. Overall, 56% of all adults viewed Biden favorably early Feb, down to 52% today. But that's no big thing, it can be chalked up to the normal ups and downs, the ebb of the flow.

Biden's problem may be the Democratic controlled congress. They're on the wrong side of the two most recent issues. Reparations, only 25% of all Americans support this, on adding justices to the SCOTUS, just 32% support that.

Now there's a huge difference in the perception of Democratic congressional delegation and Biden. The Democratic congressional critters are viewed favorably by 40% of all Americans vs. 52% favorable for Biden. The good news for the Democrats in congress is the Republicans in congress have a very low 34% favorable.


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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Biden's problem may be the Democratic controlled congress. They're on the wrong side of the two most recent issues. Reparations, only 25% of all Americans support this, on adding justices to the SCOTUS, just 32% support that.
This only shows that the Rightwing Lie Machine is taking hold. Joe is not for reparations and Nancy has not introduced legislation to expand the Court as Joe has put a committee together to study the issue.


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When its on the news with Democrats in congress talking about doing this, both reparations and expanding the SCOTUS they'll get both credit from those who are for it and blame from those who are against. For those who aren't political junkies, just catch a few minutes of the news, the perception left is the Democrats are all for it since they're the ones pushing and talking about it.

Perceptions, right, wrong or indifferent play a huge role in politics. You have these Democratic congress critters all over the news talking about expanding the SCOTUS and reparations, introducing legislation, how else is one who doesn't follow the daily grind of politics in D.C. going to take it?

So Biden is against reparations, formed a committee to study expanding the SCOTUS. Forming that committee leaves the impression, the perspective he is all for it or else he wouldn't have done it among those who aren't political junkies. He hasn't said a word about reparations that I know of, once again leaving the impression or perception that reparations are fine with him.

That being said, did you notice the huge difference between Biden's approval, favorable's at 53% today and Democratic congressional members at 40%. for the most part, this isn't tainting Biden one bit, but is tainting the democrats in congress. Biden is likeable, 50% of all Americans like Biden as a person, 34% do not. So it's Democrats in congress getting the blame or taint on this and not Biden. Biden continues to ride high in both job approval and in favorability polls. Democrats in congress aren't. But are still viewed higher in favorable's than Republicans in congress. All adults, nationwide, 40/52 for the Democrats, 34/57 favorable/unfavorable for the Republicans.

Looking for a trend, compare those numbers to 6 Feb 2021, Democrats in congress, 45/43 favorable/unfavorable, Republicans in congress 30/59 favorable/unfavorable. Make of that what you will. Democrats have dropped a bit, Republicans have risen a bit. Most likely just normal ups and downs, ebb and flow. Now the way I take this is the more Democrats are in the news, the lower they will drop. It doesn't help being in the news on the wrong side of issues most voters are against.

Let me put it this way, the right wing machine hasn't been able to dent Biden, but they're making headway against the Democrats in congress.


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Originally Posted by perotista
When its on the news with Democrats in congress talking about doing this....
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...the Rightwing Lie Machine is taking hold. ...
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Am I understanding you right? You consider the news being the right wing lie machine. All the news did was show Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas.in her committee passing the reparation bill. Is this right wing propaganda from USA Today?

https://news.yahoo.com/house-committee-hold-historic-vote-145742260.html

and Democrats introducing the expansion of the SCOTUS to 13.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dem...reme-court-13-justices/story?id=77091722

ABC I don't think is part of the right wing propaganda machine.

The Democrats certainly did the above. Or is it wrong showing this on the news since a majority of Americans are against both?

You do have propaganda machines in my point of view from both side especially on cable news. FoxNews serves as the propaganda wing for the Republicans, CNN and MSNBC as the Democratic propaganda wings. This allows those of different political persuasions to get their news in a way they want to hear the news. I don't blame the networks, they must keep their present viewers happy while trying to attract new viewership. The more viewership, the higher ratings, the more they can charge for their commercials and the more money they make.

If the news is presented in the manner their partisan viewers want, that is what their viewers get. It's a modern day political reality. It's all about money and profit, not presenting the news fully in a fair, accurate way. Because of this most Americans don't trust the media.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/321116/americans-remain-distrustful-mass-media.aspx

and from another source.

https://www.axios.com/media-trust-crisis-2bf0ec1c-00c0-4901-9069-e26b21c283a9.html


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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Yes, you read me correctly and YOU are helping to promote the lie. Yes, Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas.in her committee passed the reparation bill, but Nancy Pelosi and most Democrats are not for reparations.


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Do you understand perceptions? Since I follow independents, it's how they perceive this whole thing. How do most independents who are about as far from being political junkies like us here, they rarely delve deep into the intricacies of politics. They take what they hear or see on the news and run with it. Their perception is if Sheila Jackson Lee, a democratic committee head is for it, then the Democrats as a whole must also be for it. If they weren't her committee wouldn't have passed it.

There's no right or left wing here. It's just taking what they hear or see and going with it. Most independents, swing voters don't pay much attention to politics until it gets close to an election. They're too busy with their daily lives, trying to make ends meet, watching their favorite TV shows and rooting for their favorite sports team.

Their perception may be right, it might be wrong, that really doesn't matter. Their perception of events and what they see and hear will drive how they end up voting. This is why swing voters, independents will vote for one party's candidates 60-40 one election and then vote for the other party's candidates 60-40 the next.

Once these independents seen the news clip of Sheila Jackson Lee, they equate the passage to the Democratic party as a whole. They observed Sheila Jackson Lee which resulted in their perception of the Democratic Party's stances on this issue through observation. Not digging deep into the subject or the nuances of the subject or who is or who is not in favor of it. They saw, observed, heard what Sheila Jackson Lee said and they know her committee passed it. Thus they arrived at their perception of it.

I don't view that as being right wing or left wing. Just taking what they saw and heard and developed their perceptions of who is for and who is against from that.


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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Originally Posted by perotista
Do you understand perceptions? Since I follow independents, it's how they perceive this whole thing.
...and my point is...who is putting that perception out there? Conservative media and YOU.

Look...I get it. You people are still angry that your incompetent buffoon lost re-election. You're pissed that ol' Joe has so much #Winning in his first 85 day...that everything isn't a FUBAR and clusterfck like it was under Trump.

You people will do anything to put your corrupt, sexual perverted, racist and bigoted selves back into controlling government. Hmm


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