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Perhaps I should have said minority leader. But McConnell gets the face time while Schumer remains in the background. Just like Pelosi gets the face time in the house with McCarthy in the background.

Congressional job approval is currently at 35.3%, disapproval at 56.8%.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/congressional_job_approval-903.html

But what does that mean. Maybe just that most Americans don't like what is happening in congress of the way both parties are behaving or just take a SWAG as no one really knows.

Now Democrats should give higher approval of congress since they are in control, they do: 40/32 approve/disapprove with 20% neither approve nor disapprove. Republican since they're in the minority one would expect them to be very disapproving of congress. which they are: 17/70 approve/disapprove with 10% neither approving nor disapproving. Which leaves us with independents, 15/60 approve/disapprove with 14% neither approving nor disapproving. So are independents disapproving because the two major parties aren't cooperating with each other or compromising? Probably, but again take a SWAG as one really doesn't know since no reasons are given. Now since independents are very disappointed in the current congress, which party will they take their disappointment out on? The one in control or the one that's in the minority? I don't know. History shows that it is usually the party in control, but in the era of Trump, all bets are off.

So what is the mood of these independents? Without polls, there really is no way to tell, that I know of. One thing for certain, independents aren't happy with either major party's congressional critters, 28/60 Republican favorable/unfavorable, 29/59 Democratic favorable/unfavorable.So with all of these numbers fairly even, why is the generic congressional poll favoring the democrats 47-42 over Republicans? I'd say the Trump factor. 18 months from now, will Trump still be a factor? Unknown.

We also don't know how the redrawn districts will effect all of this either as it hasn't happened yet. Perhaps all we need to do is keep an eye on Biden's overall job approval rating to know how the midterms will turn out. Job approval Nov of the first midterm.

Trump 39%, lost 44 seats
Obama 44% lost 63 seats
Bush II 63% gained 8 seats
Bill Clinton 43% lost 54 seats
Bush I 53% lost 7 seats
Reagan 43% lost 26 seats
Carter 47% lost 15 seats

That's the most recent. Seems a positive approval rating doesn't guarantee no losses in the house, Bush I. But it certainly limits those loses. A approval rating of Below 45 results in huge loses.


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"The bigots have won": ...ever-Trumpers who refuse to quit the GQP

Us decent folk should have known the never-Trumpers were full of bluster and hyperbole. coffee


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Political facts of life. Those who are Republicans are Republicans because they disagree with the political philosophy of The Democrats. Those who are democrats are democrats because they disagree with the political philosophy of the Republicans.

What the never Trumpers want, isn't to become Democrats, they want to remain Republicans without Trump being part of that equation. They'll never become democrats. They may move into the independent column for awhile, but will return to the GOP. Their political philosophy and ideology is way too different than to join the Democratic Party and vice versa is true of the Democrats, they'll never join the Republican Party.

Over the last 10 years the Republican party base or loyal Republicans has ranged between 24-30% of the electorate. Some will move into the independents column, but ultimately return to being Republicans. The Democratic base has been between 27-35% during the last ten years. Here again, some will move into the independent column for awhile, but ultimately return.

watching all of this, what this tells me is the hard core base of each party is 24% for the Republicans and 27% for the Democrats. These folks will never waver no matter what. This also means you have 6% of the electorate who are sometimes Republican, sometimes independents and will voted Democratic every once in awhile. Another 8% of the electorate are sometimes Democrats, sometimes Independents and will vote Republican every once in a while.

The conservative vs. liberal/progressive ideology is way too different/even totally opposite of their political views for them regardless of party to switch to the other party.

I think if some of these never Trumpers Republicans were to join another party, it would be the Libertarian Party which is much more in line with their political ideology, certainly not the Democratic Party which is totally opposite.. But once Trump is gone, they;'ll return to the GOP.

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But once Trump is gone, they;'ll return to the GOP.
Don't think it matters about Trump.

Trump is simply whipping up the Base. The Base will be there long after Trump retires to golf/hamburger hell. Those who do not or can not speak the talk will not be welcome. he Republicans who have finally identified themselves as leaders of the Trump are in it for life. They know who controls the party. The more these characters speak with a 6th grade word salad alluding to the primary issues which motivate the Base, immigration and the economy. Can you imagine .... keep them coloreds out of our country and your lot in life will be better. If that sounds familiar .... think 1930's Germany.

The Base has been exposed to the sunlight. We know who and what they are and every Republican who wants to maintain control of power will bend the knee in obeisance.


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I think an examination of our existing political parties might be of interest in all of this. Here is a quote from the internet that kinda explains:
"The First Party System of the United States featured the "Federalist Party" and the "Anti-federalist Party" (which became known as the "Democratic-Republican Party" and was sometimes called "Jeffersonian Republican")."


The federalist party just went away after the war of 1812 which left The Democratic-Republican-Party which was the only party for about 8 years and then the Republican party left that Party to be the Republican party. (that happened over slaves. The Republican party was against slavery but for Chattel slavery)

Basically, the Republicans have a long history of disagreement and has been, again basically, the party of disagreement. There is more to it than that bit, in a nutshell .............

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Our first modern political party was establish by Jackson, the Democratic Party. The Federalist and anti-federalist were more of like minded clubs and folks banded together with no real modern political party infrastructure. Jefferson's Republican Party broke into many different factions after the 1820 election. All the major candidates of 1824 claimed to be Democratic-republicans or Jefferson Republicans. J.Q. Adams was the national republican northern branch of the democratic-republican party, Jackson the Jacksonian Democratic Republican, Crawford, the old national Democratic Republican, Henry Clay, had the southern wing of the national republicans of the democratic Republican party among a few others. But all claimed to be party of the Jeffersonian Republican Party.

By 1828 you were basically down to two parties, Jackson's Democratic Party and J.Q. Adams National republican party which then became the whig party. The Democratic Party has remained intact since Jackson formed them and broke away from Jefferson's Republican Party. The Whigs divided in 1856 into the old whigs and the brand new Republican Party over the issue of slavery. After 1860 the old Whig party was no more leaving our two modern political parties.

Way more to it than the little synopsis above with many twists and turns. But we pretty much continued the old federalist vs. anti federalist feud to this day. Agrarian vs. industrialist. Rural vs. city or urban.

Fact is one can't do without the other. City folks need the rural folks to grow the food and raise the livestock while rural folks need city folks to buy the food and meat they produce. Although a lot of folks with differing political ideologies sure would like to try.


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I think what you are saying is that the Democrats have remained pretty consistent whilst the Republicans have not.

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