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That's what the founding fathers and framers wanted. They were afraid that with the founding of political parties it would be party over country. They envisioned people running for office on their own without the benefit of a political party. Andrew Jackson established the first modern political party, the Democratic Party. Parties prior to that weren't political parties as we envision them. More like clubs of like minded individuals.

One also needs to remember in the beginning as a Representative Republic, it was mostly state legislature who awarded their states electoral votes. The people voted for their state representatives and their state representatives awarded their states electoral votes as the peoples representatives. It wasn't until 1868 that all states went to the popular vote.

Louisiana in 1977 went with a jungle primary without placing the letter of party affiliation behind the candidates name. That was changed for the next election cycle as a lot of people complained they didn't know who to vote for without the party affiliation being on the ballot behind the candidates name. Just goes to show you that who the candidate is doesn't matter to a lot of folks, it's the party.

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It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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The problem with the filibuster as it currently stands, is that it only applies exactly when Republicans want it to apply: The things important to Republicans are taxes and confirming conservative judges: No filibuster applies to either. Democrats want to pass laws to improve things for our country: Unless they fit into budget reconciliation, Republicans can filibuster them.

So heads, Republicans win. Tails, Democrats lose. Manchin claims to be concerned that if we get rid of the filibuster altogether, Republicans will always get their way if they regain power in both Houses and the Presidency. But they do already! I think he and Senema won't have to worry about that, because if congress does not pass the voting rights bill, they will not be reelected. And perhaps American democracy is finished.


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So, here's the thing about filibusters, the bill can pass on straight party line AFTER the filibuster is over. Just let the GQP'er crybabies have their hissy-fit, then the Dems can get the Bill signed into law.

Hmm

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