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so some fresh info has been reported.

There are a number of companies involved in the Maricopa Spectacle. Several are in fact certified by EAC. These companies have not traded in conspiracies nor are they auditing those conspiracy theories. They have all had previous election experience. One company actually checked whether any machines had been on the internet. They found one attempt to find out how to brighten monitor screen. Malware checks were negative. etc. In other words these companies found no technical problems frequently touted by Trump supporters as modus operandi for election fraud.

Still waiting on dead folks and bamboo reports.


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As near as I can tell, the only documented voter fraud was a couple guys who voted their dead mother's ballot. Republican of course.

Apparently democrats are much better at cheating and those millions of illegal ballots have been almost impossible to detect.

The lack of documented crimes, arrests, and convictions of democrats is proof that they commit more crimes than republicans and thus the theft of the election must be accepted on faith.


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I think a little care should be used when applying the term "voter fraud".

When I use it, it means voter impersonation. There are many other crimes associated with voter fraud such as fraudulent voter registration, or illegal harvesting of ballots. Sorry folks but Mickey Mouse is not a resident of the US and therefore can not register to vote in a US election. However, the person who registered Mickey Mouse to vote committed a crime. The upside is Mickey Mouse did not show up to vote for Biden ... or did he?

There are as you typed very few cases of actual, real cases of voter impersonation at the polling stations. All of the known cases from the 2020 election (of which I know) were perpetrated by Republicans voting for Mr Trump. There are far more cases of voter registration fraud, illegal harvesting, and felons voting than voter impersonation. A strange note regarding registration fraud is very few people named on the registration card show up to vote. In other words someone has registered dead folks, imaginary folks, cartoon characters, or pets. Clearly these entities named did not vote. Try telling a Trump supporter Donald Duck did not vote for Biden.

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In the past couple of weeks several pro-Trump supporters who are intimately involved in the Maricopa spectacle, have suggested they are really doing is finding the evidence to present to the BIG LIE Trump supporters the possibility Biden actually won. Bennett one of the hard core Trump acolytes has suggested he can convince 90% of the BIG LIE true believers Biden won.

Are these guys offering a preview of insider information? I think so. No matter how many ballots were disallowed, they still could not get Trump over the finish line. There are no Chinese ballots ... no secret watermarked ballots .... no dead people voting ...

This of course does not deter Bennett from deriving his own conclusions independent of the actual numbers. So Biden won but there is every reason to believe the voting process could have been compromised. The BIG LIE lives on!!!


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The whole thing is getting VERY strange. I read one article (bias to the right) that a pile of regular ballot workers found thousands of ballots which had been created with a copier. I thought that was interesting and wondered how they managed to get the copier to change the name of every of the thousands of ballots - pretty fancy copier!

Its really pretty amazing. I think that what they are doing is anti-constitutional and there is some things that tend to support that. I would also consider that after these strangers get the ballots they destroy the validity of those same ballots and they are trash. The problem with that one is that, then, they can claim anything and the basis of the Trump loss goes up in smoke.

One can only wonder, what, exactly, they are really doing!

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Here is a quick summation of what they are saying, “I reject your reality, and I substitute my own!”

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wait a sec ....
Originally Posted by Bob Dylan
"Half of the people can be part right all of the time
And some of the people can be all right part of the time
But all of the people can’t be all right all of the time"
I think Abraham Lincoln said that
“I’ll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours”
I said that


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About 30% of the people are wrong all of the time. You know the ones...


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I just keep on thinking that a lot of the stuff that they Republicans have to be against some kind of reasonable. They have, as far as I can tell, decided to lie their way as the way to win the nation. The Dems, on the other side, cannot seem to bring themselves to actually sit down, set the lines to flat out attack the Republicans for this, if they don't attack on anything else and there is a LOT to attack. Instead, as far as the congress is concerned, The dems are dedicated to sweet talk, kindness and acceptance to people who are, currently, beating the hell out of the Dems. I know Biden won (by not much), and lost in congress and almost lost their majority. They have a majority in both houses. They use theirs in the House but not in the Senate because .................

I also think that Biden will win his next election (if he runs) but how the Dems do in the state and congressional election is, as far as I can tell, right now, doubtful because they are simply not interested. Again, they need messages they ALL state and they stick to them. Right now the Dems display, every day, just how wide their membership is by the number of messages, not all of which even agree with others! The Republicans have no plan, no planks, nothing! In spite of that they are able to have messages that work and they just keep hammering whilst the Dems just run their mouths.

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The Republicans have no plan, no planks, nothing! In spite of that, they are able to have messages that work and they just keep hammering whilst the Dems just run their mouths.

Perhaps it's because their messages don't have to be true? No claim is too farfetched to be a republican "message". Democrats are(rightfully) held to a higher standard.

It's not their fault that a certain number of the population would rather believe a known charlatan than the facts and numbers.

Democrats just keep running their mouths about the facts and figures...nobody wants to hear that crap...


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