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I have experienced this problem before with conservatives/libertarians.

When I say compare issues/positions/agendas of the two parties, that does not mean compare your feelings. Maybe I am typing in a foreign language???

Does ensuring equal rights for all Citizens in America destroy America? I don't need a poll. I need a political analysis. One party supports equal rights and one party does not. That statement is demonstrable. This is concrete and road. Take the chalk in hand and step up to the board and analyze ... start with definitions .... what does it mean when you say "destroy America".

Now go from there .... I don't want a poll on someones feelings .... i don't want to know YOUR personal feelings .... I want an analysis


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I didn't say destroy America, I didn't say each party looks on the other as this nation's number one enemy. The people being polled said that. I just posted the poll, reported on the numbers as the voting public views them.

I'm not an analyst. Now we did have them in the Army, intel analyst, photo analyst, more. I suppose we could equate votes to percentages. Biden voters viewing Republicans as the enemy would come out to 28.4 million. Trump voters viewing democrats as the number enemy would come out to 27.4 million. So we have approximately the same number of folks from both parties viewing the other party as this nation's number enemy out to destroy her. Notice I didn't say that, the people who responded to the question did.

You're putting words into my mouth. Frankly both major parties disgust me, that why I'm a swing voter and not a Republican nor a Democrat. You're just as good an analyst to figure out why so many people do view the other party party this way.

Personally, I would say 40 years of nothing but negative attack ads portraying the other party's candidates as the worst scumbag on the face of the earth probably has everything to do with it. In a two party system, especially now, both parties try to portray the other in the most negative light possible. The goal is to get the voter to hate the other party's candidate more than they hate yours.

Now if you want to call that an analyst or a personal opinion or whatever , be my guest. But there you have it. All this negative advertisement has caused people to believe it is all true. They've heard it for 40 years which has gotten worst every year for 40 years. Now people believe it.


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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so how do you form an opinion to make a choice on whom you are voting??? Let me help you .... you analyze, ergo you are an analyst.

Please note when I asked for "your" definition of "destroy America" it was not you personally. I used it as a starting point. In mathematics we would say start with the definitions i.e. make sure everyone is on the same page.

I don't like the party machinery either, so I am also an independent, but am a liberal with emphasis on equality and justice for all.

I think you over rate negative ads and especially try to equate Democrat ads which describe objectionable behavior of beliefs as negative the same as the slime we see from Republicans i.,e. he has a black baby out of wedlock. So for you white supremacy is simply a nasty negative ad. For me it tells me everything I need to know about a candidate. So for you when Re Gosar hangs out with white supremacists and fund raise off of them, you don't think it means anything about Rep Gosar, since there is no substantive issue mentioned in ad .... at least that is my conclusion of what you have typed. To me knowing he hangs with the supremacists is a substantive issue.

So are you going to be an analyst or continue to regurgitate polls?


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I analyze polls to find trends that will help in forecasting the next election. So I will continue to be the analyst. I'm about as far as one can get from being a partisan or an ideologue. But elections interest me, they might not you because you have a political agenda. They do me however. Sometimes the most mundane thing equates to giving one party or the other an advantage. It's those mundane things I want to catch.

To get a grasp on how the next election goes, one needs to know how all Americans are thinking, feeling, what issues are hot with them and which ones they don't give an owl's hoot about.

Negative ads work, if they didn't no one would use them. You have to be aware at who the negative ads are focused on. They aren't focused on the other party's base and aren't on their own base for the most part. We know how those affiliated voters will vote within a couple of percentage points in almost every election. It's those in the middle, swing voters, independents, non-affiliated, less to non-partisan that all these negative ads are trying to convince. More of less to get those voters who don't pay much or any attention to politics to hate the other party's candidates more than they hate yours.


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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