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My coleslaw is just chopped green cabbage and a bottle of Marzetti's coleslaw dressing. I add a sprinkle of celery seed. I can't make better myself, and I've tried. It's the best I ever had besides the little Jewish deli I used to go to when I was a kid. But they are long gone.


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My recipe is pretty similar. I use a dry mix that comes in an envelope.
Just add mayonnaise and cabbage.

These days I just have a tub of grocery store coleslaw delivered.

I tried for years to make my own but never could get it to come out right.


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I want to share because it's a wickedly funny one-liner BURN from an outside forum. eek2 gobsmacked

"Oh, this is Republicans’ fav pastime: kill other people’s children, then give their widows standing ovations at baseball games."

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Well, gawdammutt... freedumb ain't free, ya know!!


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California needs to actually do something about their water supply problem. They are now talking about cutting off Central Valley farmer's water supply. This is some of the most productive agricultural land in the US. The state needs to build a lot of desalination plants all along the coast. The Carlsbad plant has several years of experience of producing 50 million gallons of pure fresh water per day. My water district buys part of their output, and note that the California Water Authority has no plans to cut water for San Diego.

Now there certainly is some stupid water use in Central Valley agriculture raising crops that require a lot of water, like the almonds that are mostly exported to China. But I think the growers could actually change their prices enough to cover their water costs of a changed model that does not depend on Sierra snowpack. We have thousands of square miles of desert East of the Sierras and Southern mountain ranges, that have extremely abundant sunshine. PV panels are the cheapest way of generating electricity now, often as low as 2 cents per KWHr. We could build those solar farms, the transmission lines needed to carry the power to the coast, and the desalination plants to make the fresh water. This would give us a totally-predictable water supply.

Instead of two desalination plants, we should have 30. Pumping the water to the Central Valley would be pretty cheap, as most of the Central Valley has low elevations. Done right, we could even run the canals now carrying water South backwards. Sending it that way would actually be downhill!


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It's another can kicked down the road, another infrastructure failure across the board.

So the billionaire class can rake in more cash.

Rate we're going California's gonna be dunes before they get more built.

And it's such a beautiful self-sustaining system...


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We've got horrible water issues too, there are literally cities and developments built on top of land drained by the corps of engineers.
Land that really wants to be underwater about half the year, it backs up into lake Okeechobee where it stews and ferments, then it's released into fisheries on both coasts causing killer algae blooms. Governor DeSantist was gonna fix it before he turned all stompy and Trumpy.

Sea level rise being what it is...we need to build a f*ck ton o' them things and pump it all inland!

The Salton Sea could be a sea again!

These are the wonders we should have left our children...


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Just checked and apparently we have 11 desalination plants operating in California, though Carlsbad is by far the biggest. Poseidon is opening a new bigger plant in Huntington Beach that will be the first to use carbon-neutral energy, and their Carlsbad plant is going to be going to that shortly. One of the biggest objections of anti-desal activists is their concentrated brine effluent causing environmental damage, so the Carlsbad plant draws in enough sea water to dilute their brine to 20% more salt rather than the usual 50%. Natural salinity varies from 28% to 37%, depending on latitude, so 20% enriched brine does not make much difference and dissipates quickly.


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Originally Posted by pondering_it_all
California needs to actually do something about their water supply problem.

I necroed the thread from six years ago in honor of Scoutgal, which is where we left off the discussion back then.
Re: California Drought, Grapes of Wrath in Reverse?
The drought and desalination definitely deserve their own thread and that is how I discovered there already was a very good one, started back around the last time the drought began to get severe.


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