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CNN is about to start coverage of the Jan 6 Select Committee Hearings - are you watching?
Maybe this thread can be a place to voice our collective thoughts.


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Not watching, but following. Question: do you think Pelosi is playing it strategically to the best advantage? The reason I ask is that Chris Cillizza, one of my favorite Opinion guys, took the position that by rejecting two of McCarthy's picks she had destroyed any chance of bipartisan credibility.

I think Pelosi is right, the rejects are actually participants in the insurrection, and have clearly stated their intent to do nothing but disrupt a legitimate investigation of a very serious matter. They are illegitimate choices. Besides, what bipartisan opportunity actually exists?


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I think as far as bipartisanship and compromise go, that's dead for the foreseeable future. Not in today's modern political era of polarization, the great divide and the super, mega, ultra-high partisanship. If you can't get a compromise on something that both major parties are for like the infrastructure bill, forget it. It's each party for themselves.

On the removal, you have this:

“I didn’t think things could get more partisan in the House than they already were,” a top Republican aide told the Washington Examiner. “But Speaker Pelosi’s decision to remove Republicans from the January 6th Committee just took things to an entirely new level. When Republicans take back the House, expect endless retaliation.”

Republicans are a handful of seats away from reclaiming the majority and believe they can win back the gavel in the 2022 midterm elections.

McCarthy, angered by Pelosi’s move to overrule him on Jordan and Banks, has talked of using his power as House speaker, if the GOP wins the majority next year, to “decide who sits on every committee,” a source familiar with McCarthy's comments told the Washington Examiner. “Democrats would have no say.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/expect-endless-retaliation-house-riot-103800300.html

Was Pelosi right, probably so as I'm sure Jordan and Banks would do their utmost to focus the hearings on Portland and Minneapolis riots and not the D.C. riot.

As to the question of will the hearings be seen as a bipartisan attempt to get the truth or a partisan political hack job, who knows? I haven't seen any polling done on this since last May. Perhaps that is the result of lack of interest or perhaps not? Time will tell.


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When Republicans take back the House, expect endless retaliation.”

When have we ever expected anything else? What were the Trump years besides an endless vendetta against everything Democrats have ever done? When was the last time we saw a headline proclaiming that Republicans wanted bi-partisan legislation...? They don't. they want to rule with an iron fist.

The capital police testimony really brought home how Republican voters will proudly use violence if necessary to maintain single party rule.

American voters will embrace it or reject it.

Christo-fascism won't be so bad...


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Accusing the Capital Police of being "crisis actors" is going to backfire bigtime. We all saw it in real time. Trump fanatics will stay Trump fanatics, but Independents are going to remember the insurrection footage in the midterm election. I bet this will get the Democrats the votes they need in the Senate to kill the filibuster, and 2022 will start the big Democratic accomplishment season.


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I bet this will get the Democrats the votes they need in the Senate to kill the filibuster, and 2022 will start the big Democratic accomplishment season.

You might very well be right. Because the newsreels just don't match the Republican rhetoric. There's police bodycam footage now too...and the thin blue line people are using steel whips on that thin blue line...

These folks aren't attracting the new voters they're gonna need come 2022, and their candidates are all trying to prove they can be bigger assh*les than Donald John Trump. This investigation will return the horror of the day to the memories of all decent Americans. And will expose the lies once again.

America already rejected Trumpism once and if the Trumpists want to re-litigate the 2020 election in 2022 I think it's gonna backfire.


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I would not be too surprised if it gets a few congresspeople kicked out or even prosecuted. I heard one of them was using her cell phone to tell insurrectionists where Nancy Pelosi was hiding. If the insurrectionists committed crimes, directing them was a crime as well.


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I would not be too surprised if it gets a few congresspeople kicked out or even prosecuted. I heard one of them was using her cell phone to tell insurrectionists where Nancy Pelosi was hiding. If the insurrectionists committed crimes, directing them was a crime as well.

I want to draw myself a mental picture of how the "kicking out process" actually works.
That's because I am convinced that it can't work, McCarthy will just freeze it out and the two or three Dems in Name Only will vote against any such thing because they think it would destroy "bipartisanship"...same reason they won't move on even reforming the filibuster.
And forget Republicans helping, even if they're for it. They see what happens to honest conservatives of principle.

And let's not forget, Trump's Senators have blood on their hands, too.
They see what happens in the House, they know the cannon gets aimed at them next.
Mitch isn't having any of that and I am sure his best friends Manchin and Sinema will protect the Senate from the wheels of justice.
Bipartisanship, ya know? :doh:

Of course the insurrectionists committed crimes.
140 of them should never have even been sworn in.
That's happened before...I think during the runup to the Civil War, a bunch of congress critters were simply shown the door, yes?

Uh oh...."do we want another civil war, Jeffy?"
Of course not. I don't want one, you probably don't either.
But it's coming, whether we want it or not.
It's coming because it already started, on January 6, 2021.
And the idea of stopping it and turning things around is about as realistic as stopping peristalsis after several cans of beans.
And Trump's been rolling that beautiful bean footage for six years now.

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Not watching...Chris Cillizza, one of my favorite Opinion guys, took the position that by rejecting two of McCarthy's picks she had destroyed any chance of bipartisan credibility..?
Idiot Kevin McCarthy destroyed any chance of bipartisan credibility by nominating two assclowns who voted to not certify the 2020 election and whose only purpose for being on the committee was to obstruct and manipulate the outcome.


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2021: Kevin McCarthy says Republicans will get to the bottom of what happened on Jan 6th.

1995: OJ Simpson says he will hunt down the real killers of Nicole Brown Simpson & Ron Goldman.

Coincidence, I think not. Some people are saying that many of the GQP major donor contributed financially to sending Trump's domestic terrorists to DC and many GQP politicos had a hand in planning the event. Additionally, politicos like Raphael Cruz and Josh Hawley's rhetoric fomented insurrectionist actions. Hmm

This is why the GQP was not onboard with this investigation, they want none of this confirmed.


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