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Originally Posted by Greger
Too many people using water unwisely.

To wit:

Growing almonds
Watering lawns to the point where they look like Kentucky
Failing to recognize the role of biomass as Loggy pointed out.

That's just three but they might be the top three.


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You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
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Originally Posted by logtroll
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I always wondered what happened to that baby.
Did he grow up with a sense of humor?
Did anyone let him know he's a famous meme?
Is he capable of making adorable funny faces now?

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You caught me.


You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
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A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:
I have noticed that when chickens quit quarreling over their food they often find that there is enough for all of them. I wonder if it might not be the same with the human race. -Don Marquis, humorist and poet (29 Jul 1878-1937)


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It is in the chicken's nature to quarrel over food, to establish a clear class system that determines which ones eat first and most. It is always the least hungry who eat first and most.

They honestly don't give a f*ck if the classes below them eat or not, as long as they get their fill.


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The desal plant would be easy to move, the decommissioned nuclear plant much harder. Funny thing about San Diego, though: It's very hilly with lots of the city up on mesas. Sea level could rise 30 feet and it would not flood much of the city. Along the coast, there are a lot of cliffs with the houses starting 50-400 feet above the beach. La Jolla Shores and Mission Valley would flood, but La Jolla proper, North Pacific Beach, Clairmont, Linda Vista, Balboa Park, etc. would all be fine. The areas that would be lost would mostly be places where people pay premiums to be close to the beach.

If you look at elevations in the central valley, Sacrament would be beach front property, Stockton would be gone. but by the time you got to Modesto, it would be fine.

I love Don Marquis. Archy and Mehitabel was one of the first adult books I ever read.


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I didn't mean to imply that sea-level rise would inundate the state. Just that it's part and parcel to every other problem...droughts, fires, floods, mudslides...

Cali is a wealthy state though...surely the funding to fix it all should be available...? It's even a Democrat controlled state so they can raise taxes at will to pay for everything...they can regulate industry and agriculture...!

Or not.

The entire world is in the same fix. Capitalists run everything and there's no profit in mitigation.


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Originally Posted by logtroll
Desalinization is certainly an interesting coping strategy, but it does nothing to solve the root problem.

We have people like Logtroll to help with the root issues but we kinda need both coping solutions AND root approaches.


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The root problem is we keep dumping more CO2 into the atmosphere. Any biologist can tell you about cultures that choke on their own waste products. But you can't solve that on a state or even country basis. It takes everybody, and humanity has way too many "I've got mine, so screw you" types.

Adequate fresh water supply for California? Easily solved on a water district, county, or state level. You may have noticed that California has a long coastline, and most of the population lives near the coast. Most of the rest of the population lives in the Central Valley along Highway 99. So you build desal plants along the coast, and put one in Suisun Bay to serve the Central Valley. You've just covered almost everybody in the state. Small towns further inland have reasonable water resources. Hardly anybody lives in Death Valley, and there's plenty of Eastern Sierra water for them if LA stops depending on it.

It would actually take a lot of pressure off Nevada, Arizona, and California's Southeastern farmers near El Centro, if California stopped shipping Colorado River water to Southern California. California has priority because of very old agreements, but that ends up screwing over Mexican farmers since there is very little river by the time it gets to them. Of course, they live near the Gulf of California, so as long as we are cranking out desal plants at commodity prices maybe we build a few for them.


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