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Is is just me, or was it nice to have an American President address the UN Assembly without humiliating America? smile


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I think the over-reaction to pretty White girls being murdered, is actually a lot more fundamental than we think: Your lizard-brain sees her picture and thinks: "I would do her." Which is understandable because that part of your brain has a very limited repertoire. Then slightly higher parts of your brain register the loss of opportunity.

That is just gross.

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"Calm down Sparky, she wouldn't do either of us."

The female deputy who interviewed them while they were detained implied that she was the aggressor and that the relationship appeared toxic. There's a lot we'll never know."

Yep. That's what the police decided when they questioned them separtely.
She was weepy and scared to death and said it was all her fault. He was over there yucking it up with the officer, comparing experiences with each other's women (girlfriend, wife). You know how women are.

There is no way she was faking the expression on her face. She was stricken.

Excuse me but the officers BIG TIME misread this situation.



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Excuse me but the officers BIG TIME misread this situation.

How so? Is it always entirely the man's fault?

Should they have killed him outright? Geraldo Rivera thinks Laundrie should kill himself.

I agree. Men are dangerous animals. This one needs to be put down. But if she hadn't poked at the beast she might still be alive.


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Talk about poking the beast.

(It’s a very minor point, but it’s generally agreed that Geraldo Rivera is an ass.)

Men are not dangerous animals, nor are they beasts. That’s a convenient excuse for those men who lack any sense of self-control or humanity, when no excuse exists.

If she had not poked the beast, she’d still be alive? Truly I haven’t followed this story but unless she had a knife at
his throat or a gun to his head, the fault for her death is not hers.

Is it always the man’s fault? If you mean violence against women, then no, not all the time. Probably about 90% of the time.

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I came away from that body cam coverage with a very uneast feeling.

Let me repeat, she was scared shitless and shivering and crying. He was charming, breezy, cutting up with the office about the woes of living with women, comparing notes. This had a very Jeffery Dahmer feel to it.
I know I said I wouldn't speculate but I am. I don't believe she "poked" him other than to defend herself.
Remember, the reason the police were following them in the first place was because of a 911 call reporting him slapping her.
Abused women lie all the time to stay alive.



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That's gross.
"Calm down Sparky, she wouldn't do either of us."

It's much worse than gross, and of course she wouldn't. I wasn't talking about her relationship with him. I was talking about why people watching the news are more touched by a pretty girl being murdered, than a less-than-pretty one. When I said "limited repertoire" I meant your lizard brain can only come up with a few very basic responses: "I want to eat that." "I want to kill him." "I want to have sex with her." "Run away." Not much more. And the female lizard brain is an equal opportunity lizard brain.

Fortunately, almost all of us have higher brain functions that ignore or limit those deep responses. Some don't, which is why we have serial killers. But those lizard brain responses are still there, way in the back. You can deny this, but they are still there. And humans almost always have an emotional response first, and then construct a rationalization for those emotions.


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My lizard brain wants to eat that fly. And, "OUCH! That goddam black rock it HOT!!"


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Young males are particularly dangerous. Lizard brain isn't accurate, remember what we are...apes. Violent, territorial, and smart apes.

A meme came through my newsfeed that literally hundreds of native women have gone missing in Wyoming over the years with no national press coverage.

Many were probably pretty. None were white.


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This discussion i so abhorrent to me that I am not going to mince words.

To ascribe these matters to your reptilian brain is, as I said, no more than an excuse. But if you insist on doing so, I suggest you add that “deep response” to the need for art, for music, for the search for the meaning of life. After all, the oldest art in the world is, I believe, in the caves at Lascaux, at 17,000 years, and I may have read somewhere that older art has been discovered.

While it’s tru that most violence against women is committed by men it’s also true that the majority of men are not violent towards women, or anyone else - any more my own anger, provoked multiple times today, has given me the impulse to knife anyone. - and we know it does’talways have to be the man,right?

More importantly, the reptilian brain theory is very close to instinct, and instinct is not resistible. Instinct can’t be ignored, not for long.

So you’re really talking about socialization, or perhaps anti-socialization, or even social norms and mores. And I will tell you this for nothing: most men are not beasts, nor are they animals.I have met men whose idea of fun is a bar fight. I have met men who beat their wives. I consider them to be worthless uncivilized men, my only association with them secondary, in assisting the women they endanger if possible - unfortunately, not always possible.

Finally - if you are truly one of those who believes women provoke violence against themselves, if you believe that men have some bizarre makeup that makes them dangerous, then I see no reason to allow you into my life for so much as a cup of coffee. After all, you are, by your own description, dangerous. On the other hand, b6 my own description you are ignorant, as ignorant as any anti-vaxxer, and there is no argument you can make against it.

Before you can get all “up in arras,” understand this as well: I think you’re wrong because almost all the men I have known in my life have been non-violent. Some have been soldiers and some of those carried the weight of their experiences to the ends of their lives - not exactly a thirst for blood.

By far the majority of men I have known are human beings, not beasts. You insult them all as severely as you have insulted women.


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As was was said in the movie “Cool Hand Luke”.

What we have here is a failure to communicate.


Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
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