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A thought on churches and attendance therein. My wife dragged me to Rome a couple of years ago. Rome is a city of churches and we visited a pile of them. We went to other cities too and saw even more churches. As we did I listened to those with guides. I swear, except for Rome most of the old, huge cathedrals have been taken over by the cities as something for the tourists. After we got back I had to goto the doctor. She told me that she and her husband were also traveling in Europe as well. She also told me that they too had visited a lot of old churches. She also said that the cities/towns they visited also owned those churches.

I did some investigation. The churches of Europe no longer have flocks that support all those churches! That's why the cities involved now own them! Turns out that even some of the churches of Rome are owned by the city of Rome and not the catholic church - again, not enough church goers to pay for the churches but, I guess, the tourists do!

I live in a small town and we were almost famous, once, for the number of churches that we had. One on top of another. No longer, now a lot of those churches are second hand stores, businesses, etc. The Catholic church is still there but there is no priest and most of the Catholics have moved on to the Episcopal church (amongst other but that comes closest to what the Catholics are familiar with I guess) The Catholics are going to stick with priests without wives until they just melt away.

I have nothing to base it on but, I suspect, organized religion seems to be taking a hit in the world of white Christians these days.

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Here is an article that puts a culture on display that is radically different from our money and hate obsessed American culture.

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religion seems to be taking a hit in the world of white Christians these days.

That's why I said "vaguely Christian" in my post above. There certainly are full-fledged Christians who attend church services once a week or more, pray daily, perform missionary work, etc. (Like my niece!) But nowhere near the numbers of even 50 years ago. I realized this when my supposedly-Southern Baptist step-mother told me about her sincere belief in reincarnation: I guess Jesus (her personal savior) was overseeing the reincarnation process, because Heaven was getting too crowded.

And then there is Lucifer: One of Netflix's most popular series just ended after six seasons. In this series, Lucifer tires of Hell, and moves to Los Angeles. Opens a night club, hooks up with a cute police detective, and helps solve crimes for fun. He's all about punishment for sinners, and Hell is a place guilty people make for themselves to relive their worst moments in an endless loop. I bet more Americans believe in Lucifer's Hell, than Dante's.


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Originally Posted by Greger
American "culture" is not just about money and greed. Hatred also plays an enormous role.
It just hit me that the word “culture” carries an implicit homogeneity. A culture is a large group of people who share beliefs and preferences - not just religion, but ethics, food, philosophy, lifestyle, etc. Cultures involve social responsibility and conformity - socialism.

The famous melting pot of “America” has not actually melted into a new culture, however. In spite of the high-minded words like “all men created equal”, and a conceited notion that opportunity exists for all (who have the gumption to compete and dominate the competition), the reality is that our dysfunctional cultural aspiration is anarchy - as seen clearly these days, “Nobody can tell ME what to do!” Fierce independence. Yet nobody is actually capable of true independence, nor would anybody want it if they had it. It’s a narcissistic delusion. That also explains the cult of Trump.

Money, greed, and hatred are natural expressions of such a culture (or more accurately, non-culture).


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I put this here instead of under an environmental topic because it is a model for the kind of culture we should aspire to.

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This reminds me of something, but cant quite place it! grin

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Dont underestimate the power and reach of fungi. The weather here has spawned a very prolific crop of giant puffballs around here, and am experimenting with ways of preserving them for winter use. They are very favorful and very abundant, and have no dangerous look-alikes.

Fungi have been selected to feed on oil spills, and toxic wastes, and show great potential for environmental cleanups.


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Looks like a real fun guy. How ya been, Taters?


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More like Tatters.
I find it painful to try to sit down and write when I have to consider all the grave situations in the political sphere.
Fortunately I have enough personal infrastructure action items t
o keep me busy enough to blot out too much doom-saying, New driveway, garage slab repairs, landscaping, new garage roof, brought out all of the tools including compressor for nail guns, hammer drill, and oxyacetylene torch. Not to mention fighting off climate change threats to routine veggie gardening.

Fungi have been particularly problematic with very moist summer. I guess I shouldn't complain with all those folks out West with severe droughts. All Norway Maple were denuded from Maple spot disease, but didnt effect Red Maples. Fusarium took out whole 4x8 raised bed of basil, after fortunately a huge early harvest. Cuke beetles killed all the cuke plants by infecting them with a bacterial systemic wilt, and a later fungal wilt cut the tomato season short.

And, the new enthusiastic weeds were remarkable, in that they included giant sunflowers and black walnuts, complementary from squirrel plantings. Japanese lantern plants have taken over a fallow bed, and another enthusiastically growing weed caught my attention. It was/is White Goosefoot which is a near relative of other Pigweeds notably the Palmer Amaranth that has been getting lots of press in agriculture circles as the most dangerous weed threat to commercial agriculture. This is due to its remarkable and growing resistance to herbicides, making it the star of the upcoming superweeds.

To avoid the accusation of thread off topicism, the Palmer Amaranth and most of the Pigweed family of plants were grown and harvested by Native Americans and worldwide, as they grow everywhere, and some tribes are trying to bring them back, as they can survive adverse growth conditions. Most remarkable is that the Palmer variety has evolved a rapid herbicide resistance metabolism, clearly with strong survival advantages. Im harvesting my goosefoot seeds just in case they become the only crop I can still grow.
We had better learn to eat this and like it!

Palmer amaranth, the king of weeds, cripples new herbicides

TAT

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Do you really need to harvest seeds? Any respectable weed should replant it's self. I'm finding the strangest things growing in my string bean pots, and those have hardware cloth around them to keep the ground squirrels at bay. They are so prolific I need a tiny electric fence around my raised beds, or they eat everything as soon as it sprouts.


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Human dominance of the natural order is not without its trials and tribulations.

Kshhhhh!

Relax, and have a home brew!


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