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Sorry - got the year wrong; it was 1846, so, more like 90 years.

Besides, my understanding (from the very few Mormons I know) is that they’re careful with their money and how it’s used. I doubt a lot o& thos3 cars were purchased in Utah…

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Originally Posted by Mellowicious
Sorry - got the year wrong; it was 1846, so, more like 90 years.

Besides, my understanding (from the very few Mormons I know) is that they’re careful with their money and how it’s used. I doubt a lot o& thos3 cars were purchased in Utah…

Oh. I see. Joke! Sorree!

Far as I know there were only a HANDFUL of Mormon Meteor style Duesees ever made...at its heart it was a Duesenberg.
It was a land speed record car, and Jenkins was a devout Mormon who thought breaking the land speed record - - AT Bonneville in UTAH,
would set off a record tsunami of interest in the Mormon faith.

It set him in good stead with the church and there indeed were some friendly inquiries, but not the nationwide tidal wave he'd hoped for.
But Jenkins was regarded as a solid guy and a helpful motorhead and he had a rollicking good time with his cyclops version of a hot rod.

Yeah, I will never ever understand why it was considered a smart thing to REDUCE the number of headlights on a car designed
to do 153 miles per hour at a time when most cars could barely break 65.


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From what I've read, handcarts were also an economic thing. Wagons and oxen to drive them were expensive. Handcarts were a lot cheaper, and a lot more people could build them. A lot of those Mormon immigrants built their own from kits! In Utah, they still celebrate Handcart Day. I know because I watch a Utah-based off-road rescue channel on YouTube, and the folks in it are all LDS. They build a lot of off-roading vehicles, but they had one episode in which they renovated a handcart for a parade.


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Originally Posted by Mellowicious
Log and Greger, I think, brought up the subject of American car culture in another thread, and it seemed large enough to overwhelm that original thread allowed, so I’m hijacking it here.
It’s an interesting parallel to the Culture topic relating to what culture actually is (like most topics it gets complicated fast and it’s unlikely that any single and concise definition will serve).

The Car Culture seems to be largely an obsession that is dragging us around by the psyche - I certainly have it and rarely see it objectively outside of a range of desires. Just since it was brought up I’ve been astounded at how much of American (I’ll keep it narrow) existence is bound up with cars. I said “obsession“ above, but addiction may be more on point.

We are changing the entire planet’s form and function to accommodate cars…


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That song has been on my mind a lot lately. There’s a nice little woods behind my building, one of the reasons I moved here. It’s being (partially) cleared, apparently for parking.


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Originally Posted by Mellowicious
Log and Greger, I think, brought up the subject of American car culture in another thread, and it seemed large enough to overwhelm that original thread allowed, so I’m hijacking it here.
It’s an interesting parallel to the Culture topic relating to what culture actually is (like most topics it gets complicated fast and it’s unlikely that any single and concise definition will serve).

The Car Culture seems to be largely an obsession that is dragging us around by the psyche - I certainly have it and rarely see it objectively outside of a range of desires. Just since it was brought up I’ve been astounded at how much of American (I’ll keep it narrow) existence is bound up with cars. I said “obsession“ above, but addiction may be more on point.

We are changing the entire planet’s form and function to accommodate cars…

What if an alien race observes all these cars and their activity at a distance and, upon discovering all the humans inside them, concludes that we're parasites that are infecting them?


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Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas
What if an alien race observes all these cars and their activity at a distance and, upon discovering all the humans inside them, concludes that we're parasites that are infecting them?
Crazy!


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Silly rabbits! Cars are the alien race. Clearly, we lost.


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Originally Posted by Mellowicious
Silly rabbits! Cars are the alien race. Clearly, we lost.
Cars are Conservatives?

ConROT - Conservative Rule of the Opposite Thang.

They tricked us!!


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