Today's Birthdays
There are no members with birthdays on this day.
Current Topics
Round Table Winter 2021
by Mellowicious - 01/18/22 06:10 AM
Gerrymandering
by perotista - 01/18/22 04:01 AM
The long and winding road to Dumbass
by pondering_it_all - 01/18/22 03:08 AM
Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century?
by pondering_it_all - 01/18/22 02:31 AM
Texas hostages
by pdx rick - 01/18/22 02:10 AM
Winning
by perotista - 01/17/22 08:21 PM
National Commission to Investigate the January 6
by pondering_it_all - 01/16/22 12:02 PM
Lindsey v. Mitch: Senate cage match
by logtroll - 01/15/22 05:11 AM
Don't look up
by jgw - 01/14/22 10:42 PM
Complexity Science
by Jeffery J. Haas - 01/12/22 06:34 PM
What's for dinner?
by pondering_it_all - 01/02/22 09:37 PM
RoundTable For Fall 2021
by Mellowicious - 01/02/22 04:21 AM
Divorce: American Style
by pdx rick - 12/31/21 01:56 AM
Gimme some of that good ol time religion
by pondering_it_all - 12/23/21 08:19 PM
F.D.A. Will Permanently Allow Abortion Pills by Mail
by Mellowicious - 12/22/21 09:03 PM
Joe Manchin thread
by perotista - 12/22/21 08:33 PM
A Fungus Amungus
by logtroll - 12/22/21 01:00 AM
Popular Topics(Views)
9,784,589 my own book page
4,858,732 We shall overcome
3,973,417 Campaign 2016
3,616,916 Trump's Trumpet
2,871,309 3 word story game
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 10,097
Likes: 46
veteran
OP Offline
veteran
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 10,097
Likes: 46
Sorry - got the year wrong; it was 1846, so, more like 90 years.

Besides, my understanding (from the very few Mormons I know) is that they’re careful with their money and how it’s used. I doubt a lot o& thos3 cars were purchased in Utah…

Oh. I see. Joke! Sorree!


Julia
“It’s the shipwreck that leads you to the magical island.”
(Trevor Noah)
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 15,977
Likes: 33
It's the Despair Quotient!
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
It's the Despair Quotient!
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 15,977
Likes: 33
Originally Posted by Mellowicious
Sorry - got the year wrong; it was 1846, so, more like 90 years.

Besides, my understanding (from the very few Mormons I know) is that they’re careful with their money and how it’s used. I doubt a lot o& thos3 cars were purchased in Utah…

Oh. I see. Joke! Sorree!

Far as I know there were only a HANDFUL of Mormon Meteor style Duesees ever made...at its heart it was a Duesenberg.
It was a land speed record car, and Jenkins was a devout Mormon who thought breaking the land speed record - - AT Bonneville in UTAH,
would set off a record tsunami of interest in the Mormon faith.

It set him in good stead with the church and there indeed were some friendly inquiries, but not the nationwide tidal wave he'd hoped for.
But Jenkins was regarded as a solid guy and a helpful motorhead and he had a rollicking good time with his cyclops version of a hot rod.

Yeah, I will never ever understand why it was considered a smart thing to REDUCE the number of headlights on a car designed
to do 153 miles per hour at a time when most cars could barely break 65.


"The Best of the Leon Russell Festivals" DVD
deepfreezefilms.com
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 11,592
Likes: 83
veteran
Offline
veteran
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 11,592
Likes: 83
From what I've read, handcarts were also an economic thing. Wagons and oxen to drive them were expensive. Handcarts were a lot cheaper, and a lot more people could build them. A lot of those Mormon immigrants built their own from kits! In Utah, they still celebrate Handcart Day. I know because I watch a Utah-based off-road rescue channel on YouTube, and the folks in it are all LDS. They build a lot of off-roading vehicles, but they had one episode in which they renovated a handcart for a parade.


We're flying electric helicopters on Mars yet you can't turn on your clothes dryer in Texas. That's because scientists are in charge of Mars, and Republicans are in charge of Texas.
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 11,732
Likes: 56
L
veteran
Offline
veteran
L
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 11,732
Likes: 56
Originally Posted by Mellowicious
Log and Greger, I think, brought up the subject of American car culture in another thread, and it seemed large enough to overwhelm that original thread allowed, so I’m hijacking it here.
It’s an interesting parallel to the Culture topic relating to what culture actually is (like most topics it gets complicated fast and it’s unlikely that any single and concise definition will serve).

The Car Culture seems to be largely an obsession that is dragging us around by the psyche - I certainly have it and rarely see it objectively outside of a range of desires. Just since it was brought up I’ve been astounded at how much of American (I’ll keep it narrow) existence is bound up with cars. I said “obsession“ above, but addiction may be more on point.

We are changing the entire planet’s form and function to accommodate cars…


You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 11,732
Likes: 56
L
veteran
Offline
veteran
L
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 11,732
Likes: 56


You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 10,097
Likes: 46
veteran
OP Offline
veteran
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 10,097
Likes: 46
That song has been on my mind a lot lately. There’s a nice little woods behind my building, one of the reasons I moved here. It’s being (partially) cleared, apparently for parking.


Julia
“It’s the shipwreck that leads you to the magical island.”
(Trevor Noah)
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 15,977
Likes: 33
It's the Despair Quotient!
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
It's the Despair Quotient!
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 15,977
Likes: 33
Originally Posted by logtroll
Originally Posted by Mellowicious
Log and Greger, I think, brought up the subject of American car culture in another thread, and it seemed large enough to overwhelm that original thread allowed, so I’m hijacking it here.
It’s an interesting parallel to the Culture topic relating to what culture actually is (like most topics it gets complicated fast and it’s unlikely that any single and concise definition will serve).

The Car Culture seems to be largely an obsession that is dragging us around by the psyche - I certainly have it and rarely see it objectively outside of a range of desires. Just since it was brought up I’ve been astounded at how much of American (I’ll keep it narrow) existence is bound up with cars. I said “obsession“ above, but addiction may be more on point.

We are changing the entire planet’s form and function to accommodate cars…

What if an alien race observes all these cars and their activity at a distance and, upon discovering all the humans inside them, concludes that we're parasites that are infecting them?


"The Best of the Leon Russell Festivals" DVD
deepfreezefilms.com
1 member likes this: logtroll
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 11,732
Likes: 56
L
veteran
Offline
veteran
L
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 11,732
Likes: 56
Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas
What if an alien race observes all these cars and their activity at a distance and, upon discovering all the humans inside them, concludes that we're parasites that are infecting them?
Crazy!


You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 10,097
Likes: 46
veteran
OP Offline
veteran
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 10,097
Likes: 46
Silly rabbits! Cars are the alien race. Clearly, we lost.


Julia
“It’s the shipwreck that leads you to the magical island.”
(Trevor Noah)
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 11,732
Likes: 56
L
veteran
Offline
veteran
L
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 11,732
Likes: 56
Originally Posted by Mellowicious
Silly rabbits! Cars are the alien race. Clearly, we lost.
Cars are Conservatives?

ConROT - Conservative Rule of the Opposite Thang.

They tricked us!!


You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller
1 member likes this: TatumAH
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3

Link Copied to Clipboard
Who's Online Now
1 members (1 invisible), 43 guests, and 1 robot.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
SuZQ2, KevFilthyANML, Risky, Gladys G. Jackson, Beach Baby
6,297 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums61
Topics17,274
Posts313,911
Members6,297
Most Online294
Dec 6th, 2017
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.4.27 Page Time: 0.013s Queries: 38 (0.004s) Memory: 3.0333 MB (Peak: 3.2529 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2022-01-18 07:08:38 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS