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pdx rick #338924 11/28/21 04:53 PM
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You do realize that through Assange’s actions in 2016, Trump was elected POTUS, correct Chunky? He’ll get no empathy from me.


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Save your breath, Chunks. Democrats are as deaf as Republicans when it comes to any criticism of their party.
Originally Posted by Loggy
what new model are you proposing?

Perhaps a model where hatred, loathing and general disdain of the "other" party is curtailed.

It would require that first Democrats need to admit that they are part of the problem instead of blaming ALL the problems on Republicans. That appears to be completely impossible since Democrats are altogether blameless in all things.

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It's a problem when half of the country deny reality and facts.

Both halves of the country are denying reality and facts. Neither seem to see how easily they are manipulated by the propaganda.


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Originally Posted by Greger
Perhaps a model where hatred, loathing and general disdain of the "other" party is curtailed.
We can certainly have a kumbaya moment, Greger, then what? Half the country still wouldn't be live in science, or fact.



Originally Posted by Greger
It would require that first Democrats need to admit that they are part of the problem instead of blaming ALL the problems on Republicans. .
Please cite examples of your both-sideism, specially what you claim are the Democrats problems. Writing in generalities isn't making your arguments strong.


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There is no example of both sidesism Rick. It is impossible.

Compromise is impossible. Even conversations with the enemy are impossible. They don't share our remarkable intelligence and are incapable of rational thought like us.

I submit that bloodshed is the only answer. Civil War, or more rightfully something like the Third Reich where they exterminated their political enemies is the only path forward.

Hopefully we'll be able to engineer our own Kristallnacht soon and put an end to Jewisherrr Conservative control of the economy! We'll build Gulags and internment camps for them, we'll do science experiments on them and gas them by the millions!

It's okay though because they simply are not human and do not deserve to live!

Perhaps we could make slaves of them? That's an idea! We could use them as chattel, sex slaves and forced labor! Well make them wear red stars too! As a sign of shame that all decent Democrats can see!

Then we can attack any nearby countries where conservatives might be lurking. Half of Canada and Mexico are conservative so we'll need to get them under Democratic control.

Then we can begin the cleansing of Europe and Asia....

Only one side can be victorious!


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Originally Posted by pdx rick
You do realize that through Assange’s actions in 2016, Trump was elected POTUS, correct Chunky? He’ll get no empathy from me.

Assange did his job as a journalist. It was the Democratic Party doing what they did that got Trump elected. From their raising Trump up amongst the GOP primary field, to rigging their primary for their donors choice for you to vote for. Russiagate was CYA for Dem Corp screwing up. Badly.
You got stampeded Rick. Happens to the best, happens to the rest.

You realize your endorsing state sanctioned torture, possibly killing for a journalist doing his job don’t you?
Goodness, liberals are a fickle crowd.

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That same corporate wing, by the way, are the same incompetents that want you to believe the left progressives are screwing it up badly for Dem Corp. but they would wouldn’t they. It’s been SOP for 4 decades now though they never won majorities like the old New Deal Dems had. For such managerial competence they sure suck in comparison.

Even the Russiagating New Yorker is having a bit of a come to Jesus moment lately

“ The Democratic Party has not been captured by the left and forced into espousing an agenda of political correctness. It does, however, face the problem of having made big promises to its core constituencies—including African Americans—that it has been unable to fulfill. Moreover, the Party is raising doubts about whether it’s capable of delivering the kinds of economic and political reforms that can radically improve voters’ quality of life.”

Wokeness” Is Not the Democrats’ Problem

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Originally Posted by Greger
There is no example of both sidesism Rick. It is impossible.

Compromise is impossible. Even conversations with the enemy are impossible. They don't share our remarkable intelligence and are incapable of rational thought like us.

I submit that bloodshed is the only answer. Civil War, or more rightfully something like the Third Reich where they exterminated their political enemies is the only path forward.

Hopefully we'll be able to engineer our own Kristallnacht soon and put an end to Jewisherrr Conservative control of the economy! We'll build Gulags and internment camps for them, we'll do science experiments on them and gas them by the millions!

It's okay though because they simply are not human and do not deserve to live!

Perhaps we could make slaves of them? That's an idea! We could use them as chattel, sex slaves and forced labor! Well make them wear red stars too! As a sign of shame that all decent Democrats can see!

Then we can attack any nearby countries where conservatives might be lurking. Half of Canada and Mexico are conservative so we'll need to get them under Democratic control.

Then we can begin the cleansing of Europe and Asia....

Only one side can be victorious!
Hyperbolic, lame, and churlish. You're obviously not ready to have a real discussion.


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What's your plan, Rick, your strategy to win hearts and minds and, more importantly, elections?

So far you seem to want to insult them into submission. Half the goddam country is conservative! Geographically almost all of it is governed by Republicans with only tiny specks of blue here and there under Democratic control. And Democrats are losing ground.

Maybe if you go to enough right-wing websites and insult them enough or come here and call them enough names they will all just go away.

What do you want to have discussion about? How stupid and racist they are? Why?

We know that. One of the right-wing parties recruited them years ago to win elections and get all of them into one tent. How do you figure to counter that...more insults and hate-filled rants?

If whining and bitching is all ya got, no I'm not ready for a discussion.

If all you can do is deny that the Democratic Party is ever at fault then no you'll get no serious notice or discussion of "denialism".


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It was a really good interview. She didn't cut him much slack.


A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.

Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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Originally Posted by logtroll
Originally Posted by chunkstyle
I keep noticing you leaving out your side of the street regarding ignorance and hysteria.
Funny thing there…
That is hysterical! Perhaps you could throw down an example or a definition or two that we could have a friendly wrassle over?
I was puzzling over the intended slight.


A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.

Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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