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Trump's election lie falls flat again as right-wing Wisconsin group finds 'no evidence of widespread fraud' in Wisconsin. The analysis was conducted by Wisconsin Institute for Law & Liberty a rightwing law group concluded that there was no evidence the election was corrupted by voter fraud.

"In all likelihood, more eligible voters cast ballots for Joe Biden than Donald Trump," concluded WILL

- WILL Electoin Integrity Study


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You didn't get the memo

Every group/person, no matter how deep they are inside Trump's intestinal tract, which/who reports anyone other than Trump winning, is/are liberal provocateurs doing everything in their power to portray Trump in a bad light. The only egitimate recounts are those which report Trump winning i.e. they found the 11,780 Trump needed to win.

Either all of those folks are in the drink with anti-Trump hating liberals, or they are the targets of space alien mind tricks. I mean .... your choice. I am of course excluding the very real possibility/probability they gave it the best effort for a good count.

For Trump supporters, it wouldn't matter if every one of them were employed to count the ballots and they were part and parcel, literally complicit, of a count in which Biden won, they would still not believe results. These folks are completely delusional.


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Shocked, simply shocked, to find no election fraud is going on here!


A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.

Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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I recommend everyone read Election Fraud, Foreign Interference & Options for 6 JAN. If you still think these folks are not trying to destroy Democracy .... then I will conclude we are truly frakked. It would be like Germany in the 1930's ... a willing and complicit population still thinking democracy was in action.

Run a poll on that PP presentation.


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If you still think these folks are not trying to destroy Democracy ....

Of course they're trying to destroy democracy! But only for Democrats.

That's what political enemies do. Force their opponents from office and KEEP them out.

Just as Democrats want to force Republicans from office and KEEP them out.


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Clearly you missed the point

No one thinks Iranian elections are democratic ... nor Russian elections ... nor etc etc. The reason is there is a preordained winner. Likewise Republicans have set up the legal infrastructure for predicting the winner, albeit a Republican, every election. So what process have Democrats set up to do the same????

I think you are confused about what is happening, Mr Jones


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I think you are confused about what is happening, Mr Jones

Um...the two capitalist parties are waging war on each other to acquire and maintain power...?

Sure, your side is the good guy, I know that. I vote for them.
I too have a big amygdala!

But I also don't see the world through blue-tinted lenses. I'd like to think we could discuss political theory from a neutral standpoint without latching onto the partisan talking points and slashing away at half the nation as if they were our mortal enemies.

Stupid, racist, deplorable, yes. But that was by design! It wasn't a bottom up movement, it was strategically planned from the top to unite them under one tent and into one voting block and it was done with surgical precision and then exploited at every opportunity by corporate marketing research and media funding.

They stole the working class out from under the Democrats. Who are now perceived by mainstream America to be an elite out-of-touch professional-class who has nothing in common with the working man.

I know...stupid. But that's why they worked so hard to recruit the racist deplorables.

Driving them away is not gonna win you any votes. Locking them up is not gonna win you any votes. The propaganda that controls them comes from the top down, Just as the propaganda that controls blue team comes via corporate-funded media.

Yall blaming the brainwashed idiots for the antics of their Corporate Overlords™


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Originally Posted by Greger
Yall blaming the brainwashed idiots for the antics of their Corporate Overlords™
What's the secret sauce for getting the idiots back in the fold? Soma?


You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
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Democrats have highly skilled and highly paid advisors and political strategists, and pollsters and all sorts of smarter people than me to figure that out.

Hoping that covid kills enough Republicans to change future election results probably isn't going to do it.

Calling them names doesn't seem to be working either.

Maybe finding a strong, charismatic, good-looking, candidate with impeccable political instincts and charm would be a step in the right direction.


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Originally Posted by Greger
Maybe finding a strong, charismatic, good-looking, candidate with impeccable political instincts and charm would be a step in the right direction.
Okay. Is AOC old enough yet?

Last edited by logtroll; 12/10/21 01:38 AM. Reason: Thought of a candidate.

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