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TatumAH #339354 12/09/21 03:23 AM
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LOL yeah, just try explaining socialism to a democrat.


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LOL .... LOL ....LOL

I had to laugh. Nutty right wingers Owens and Greene started using the term just a few months ago. Neither one of these intellectual geniuses actually have the necessary accumulated number of brain cells to create the term on their own. They are both poseurs of the worse kind.

The very optics of the Trump campaign stumbling all over Russians and a number of whom had direct connections to Russian intelligence or Putin, places a real concern on any respectable security organization to investigate. Had the FBI not investigated, I would have been first in line calling for the entire agency to be disbanded as incompetent for failure to investigate an ongoing security concern.

So what is the hoax? Was it conspiracy or collusion? Mueller was unable to prove criminal conspiracy but he certainly provided enough evidence of unethical collusion.

I have no idea what your prediction means, however, I predict the Trump organization has effectively laid the groundwork for an illegitimate political takeover in the 2024 if Trump should lose the electoral vote. How are you ok with that???


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Originally Posted by Greger
just try explaining socialism to a democrat
Let me correct that for ya

Originally Posted by rporter314
just try explaining socialism to a Trump supporter

I am pretty sure every rational, somewhat educated person understands what socialism is.


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Originally Posted by rporter314
I am pretty sure every rational, somewhat educated person understands what socialism is.

Yes indeed, but many wont admit to understanding it, as it would undermine their dogmatic ideological positions.

Few actually understand the specific finer points of
Georgistical Socialism grin

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I don’t have a dog in the fight between these two rightwing corporate led parties.
Biden still owes me $600.

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Interesting stuff. Lots of imaginitive ideas from that era getting floated. They hadn’t had TINA imposed everywhere yet. One thing, for me anyways, that really defines our times is how dull and unimaginative it is.
MMT has been interesting though. Once understood, it really highlights the congressional theater rational for why we can’t have nice things with Democrats or why tax breaks are always preferred for Republicans.

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you could get off the grid long enough to check with the IRS ....


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Not sure what your talking about. Does it have anything to do with the Dem bill to have the IRS monitoring bank accounts with transactions of $600 or more? I think it's been revised for 10k.

Cuz that's where the real cheating is going on...

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Originally Posted by rporter314
Originally Posted by Greger
just try explaining socialism to a democrat
Let me correct that for ya

Originally Posted by rporter314
just try explaining socialism to a Trump supporter

I am pretty sure every rational, somewhat educated person understands what socialism is.

It's where the government owns everything and the elite keep all the money and the rest of us get exploited, right?

I tried to explain it to jgw in another thread and it falls on deaf ears...Pero, thought it had something to do with something about WW2 that wasn't actually socialism...

Those old enough to remember the USSR may not recall that most everything you knew about them was US propaganda. And most everything you know about Russia today is US propaganda. But the USSR and Russia weren't in any way socialist...

So, no, Mr. Porter. Your average moderate democrat has no idea what socialism is because it would require them to shed their elitist right-wing notions of what's best for America.

Capitalism, capitalism, capitalism. That is what is good for America and the WORLD!!!!!

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Being I’m probably as dumb as the next person when it comes to the meaning of socialism as I just classified it as another political ideology or philosophy. So, I decided to look it up. I would wager folks my age equate socialism with the old USSR. As I stated before, I have no idea what the younger one’s associate socialism with. Below is the official dictionary definition.

Essential Meaning of socialism
: a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies
Full Definition of socialism
1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism


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