Originally Posted by Phil Hoskins
But lets get history correct. Early humans had first to develop a sense of "self" before either ownership or rights could be conceived of. That took many millenia to come about. As it developed, most small hunter-gatherer clusters evolved into chiefdoms which is when the first concept of differentiation of role and place occurred.

I am amazed at how you or anyone else knows when "the first concept of differentiation of role and place occured", Phil. How far back must one go to establish such a thing? Ida ? Lucy ?

[quote=Phil Hoskins]The concept of rights sprang from the ego developed mind of man and those with an interest in stability and order found it expedient to use the state to enforce claims of right.

In other words, it �sprang� from the nature of man who eventually recognized that securing those rights was a valid reason for instituting governments among men.;-)

"When all has been said that can be said, and all has been done that can be done, there will be poetry";-) -- Issodhos