Thanks Phil, for grounding me being a Collectivist and practically a Socialist these days I think I like your vision better than the one I created. I like this America, one where we have collective rights and individual rights, An America that takes care of it's own and for the most part lets me run free to do as I choose. The United States was based on Liberty and Freedom. it's taken a turn towards fascism but I believe it can turn away. Probably not in my lifetime but someday it will come to it's senses. Libertarian Philosophy is based on Liberty and Freedom. Sometimes I think it's ahead of it's time, man has simply not evolved far enough yet to handle that sort of individual responsibility, maybe some have, but not enough. Maybe some day but not yet.