I was responding to your definition of socialism being 'government owns all means of production that is accepted just about everywhere' statement.
It isn't and hasn't been. If that is a revelation for you I'd suggest you take it as an interesting area of study to be examined further...
Or not. Perhaps your suffering the hysterics of the red scare after effects and have locked the idea away in your mind, never to be contemplated fully.
You could do worse than Richard Wolff and he's just given an interesting historical summation of socialism:

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