I guess I just don't understand the socialist thing.
I do, however, give up.
I don't recall you ever putting the time in to understand it JGW. No one is saying you have to agree with something to understand it. Frankly, I don't see you making an effort but restating mischaracterizations that you've apparently picked up from your childhood. For myself, I wold like to at least be aware of what a large portion of the world is on about. I don't see capitalism as a sustainable system under it's desribed laws of motion. THere's not enough planet to continue it.