Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
The reason I mentioned the Green New Deal and nationalized health care is to point one very important fact about leftists. They are very patient. Nationalized health care was first proposed in 1904. It became a reality in 2010. It took leftists 106 years but they finally got nationalized health care. They believe that eventually communism will prevail. As with the implementation of nationalized health care if it takes 100 years to achieve their goal they don't care. They know it isn't going to happen this year but are convinced that eventually they will succeed.
If you think the ACA is "nationalized healthcare" you are either incredibly uninformed or self-delusional. We do have "Nationalized Healthcare" in this country - it is run by the Veteran's administration and the Department of Defense. None of Medicare, Medicaid or the ACA (or any of the other government-sponsored insurance programs) are "nationalized healthcare". I kinda wish we did have it. (Okay, technically, I do. But that is a different issue.)

If you wanna get all "definitional" in here, "Socialism" is "government control of the means of production." No one has seized the hospital system in the United States. Socialism is not a social welfare program, or a progressive tax system. Period. Full Stop. (No really, just stop!) That is what social democracy (not democratic socialism) is all about - ensuring that the government is providing for the "general welfare" - you know that bit in the US Constitution?! Maybe you have read and potentially own a copy? People get confused, and outraged, because it has the same root, "social", but it is definitively, categorically, and in all other ways, not the same thing.