Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: perotista
You know Greger, I always said that both major parties owe their hearts and souls to corporations, wall street firms, lobbyist, special interests, mega money donors, etc. That's where they get all their money to run their organizations and campaigns.

Not true. Look at Bernie's (2016) and (2020) campaign and Trump's first 2016 campaign - all small donations. I believe that Biden was as well this year. Your both sidesism is really getting old and tired - like gum that has lost its flavor. rolleyes

The problem in figuring out Sanders is his money was for primaries only and not really documented as candidates were in the general election.

In 2016 Sanders raised 230 million, which 135 million came from small donors. Small donors are defined as donating 200 dollars or less. 2020 Sanders raised 212 million which 114 million came from small donors. This is his primary totals.

Other candidates 2016 Hillary Clinton raised 770 million which 106 million came from small donors. Trump in 2016 raised 433 million million which 87 million came from small donors. Counting the primaries, Clinton raised and spent 1,191 billion, Trump 646.8 million.

2020 Joe Biden raised 1.6 billion which 407 million came from small donors. Trump in 2020 raised 1.1 billion which 378 million came from small donors.

The general election campaign is certainly more expensive than the primaries. So the figures are basically apples to oranges when dealing with Sanders. Putting Sanders aside since he hasn't, didn't particpate in the general election. One candidate doesn't make the both sideism untrue.

Only 13.8% of Hillary's money came from small donors in 2016, 20.6% of Trump's money came from small donors in 2016. In 2020 Biden received 25.4% of his money from small donors, Trump received 34.3% of his money from small donors.

Now Sanders did indeed raise over half of his money from small donors. But that was just the primary only. No one knows how or who would have contributed during the general election in which both major party candidates raised over a billion dollars each for 2020.


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.