Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
It's odd that I simply point out where there is consensus in the two parties. I thought that was the implied title thread?

Or is this more exercise in joining a group consensus?

Sorry. Guess I'm not the sharpest pencil in the drawer it seems with what your after.

Do we need a revolution, maybe? I'm ready for some action!

You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller